A UK friendly specific EDC gadget thread!

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tanstaafl
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Re: A UK friendly specific EDC gadget thread!

Post by tanstaafl »

I picked up a bunch of those too, really useful also picked up a few of these which were the same price 99p with free shipping.

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Their about six times as big and have an integrated bottle opener and flathead screwdriver. Much thicker steel and better pocket retention.

And that gap between the 2 prongs (on the left in piccy) is a bit driver ( it should have come with a "O" ring to hold the bit in place)
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tanstaafl wrote:
I picked up a bunch of those too, really useful also picked up a few of these which were the same price 99p with free shipping.

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Their about six times as big and have an integrated bottle opener and flathead screwdriver. Much thicker steel and better pocket retention.

And that gap between the 2 prongs (on the left in piccy) is a bit driver ( it should have come with a "O" ring to hold the bit in place)
I didn't get any extra bits. This is how they come and to give a better idea of size for anyone choosing. To be fair I like the smaller ones more, as I don't really hang anything too heavy of them, but if you have a bunch of crap on your keychain the bigger one might be the better option. Their both 99p so, its not going to break the bank.
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Started EDCing a set of picks, at the moment I have two sets in rotation a small set from http://www.madbobpicks.co.uk/ which are 100% UK made and designed and I can't recommend enough, really great company too and a set of Southords which are also good, but are a little thicker than the madbob picks, which can be an issue with some European locks. I also carry one or two locks I'm currently working on, which removes any issues with the police, if you are afraid of getting found with picks.

The basic set will get you through 95% of the locks you will come across every day.

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Post by EMT »

I tried picking for a bit and was good fun and yeah like you used a basic set, really easy once you have a cutaway lock.

Any experience with pick guns or bump keys?
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Nice gear there. Regarding the lock picks, we all know they are available to buy, but can we steer away from that subject please ? As already mentioned, carrying them can create legal problems, as it can be seen ( quite rightly imo) as 'going equipped'. Let's keep it legal. Thanks.
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jansman wrote:Nice gear there. Regarding the lock picks, we all know they are available to buy, but can we steer away from that subject please ? As already mentioned, carrying them can create legal problems, as it can be seen ( quite rightly imo) as 'going equipped'. Let's keep it legal. Thanks.
It's widely accepted as a prepping skill globally. Understanding how locks work, is like understanding how a car works, if not more important as you can live without a car, try living without locks. For example both locksmiths and mechanics, can and will rip you off, charging you for things that don't need to happen and using crappy parts.

Lockpicking as a skill will teach you how to remove a broken key out of your own locks and access your home, saving yourself hundreds of pounds, as locksmiths as a whole will try and use a key extractor, then drill or pull the lock out and charge you for a new cylinder and keys. Sure there are a few good locksmith around, but they are in the minority, its about getting the most amount of money from each job.

Other things you learn is how to repin a lock, which means you can reuse and repair your locks, which will save you a lot over your lifetime. This skill will also allow you to buy old locks without keys and repin it to suit a key you have, as well as using security pins, increasing its security.

Finally lockpicking will teach you how to buy locks. I see people talking about securing their homes and gardens, yet if you looked at their locks, you will likely see a own brand Wicks or B&Q, possibly even a Master Lock, knowing they are pieces of trash, that can be opened in under 2 seconds will allow you to better protect yourself, your family and your home, which are all major parts of prepping.

Lockpicking and lock sports are completely legal and a fun and useful hobby.
EMT wrote:I tried picking for a bit and was good fun and yeah like you used a basic set, really easy once you have a cutaway lock.

Any experience with pick guns or bump keys?
Picking guns work, but they're a waste of money as if you can use a picking gun to open a lock, you can use a rake quicker and cheaper. I've use bump keys but again I don't see the point in most situations, the only thing's that come in useful besides a basic set of picks is a set of shims for some padlocks, disk detainer picks and dimple picks/rakes.
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I agree that it is a useful skill, and I take my hat off to its proponents. However, we are monitored by google bots and whomever else, and we do not want would be burglars googling " lockpicking" and being directed straight here.

This is rather an interesting thread about UK FRIENDLY ( as in the title) EDC. I will add UK LEGAL. No more lockpicking please.
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The issue here is intent, and it still lies with the police to prove this.
As with all laws, a common sense approach is used when considering lawfulness, this will consider things like:
Where you were, what time, whether you have previous convictions related to theft where using them was your modus operandi, whether you had other relevant items, for example gloves, torch, etc.
My advice is not to carry them around all the time. If you are stopped by the police, be polite and explain you are a hobby picker.
- from a long serving police man

If you are found with a swiss army knife, you can be sent to prison for having an offensive weapon, if you say or agree with the wrong thing.

The argument behind the google bots is a fair one, although criminals don't pick locks, they cut them off or go through windows, they look for weak targets.
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Right then. This site operates within the law. End of. Your chosen hobby is interesting and there is plenty of information out there for any member who wishes to pursue it. But not here. Regarding legality it is covered here.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60/section/25

No more lock picking nor discussion thereof . I have asked twice, this is thrice. Any more will be deleted. Please carry on discussing EDC.
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