Fixed Blade Recommendations

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Re: Fixed Blade Recommendations

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ForgeCorvus wrote:
bunkai wrote:I'll say it:

If money is not a problem then it's a Woodlore or Jacklore + a nice water stone to sharpen it.

Knife == Survival, if I could only take one thing it would be the knife and what's in my head, which by the way is not much but I am working on it...
Why those two?

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I find the concept of paying over a ton for a field knife a little hard to fathom, can someone explain please ?
It definitely isn't about value for money. I appreciate a hand made blade. I like to support UK craftsmen. I don't intend on buying another knife so why not get something nice? Some people spend £200 on tickets to a football match, others spend £800 on a fishing rod. I would make one myself but I don't have the time, tools or the skill.
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Bunkai: Sorry if I came over badly. :oops:
I am interested in peoples different approaches to the same basic challenges
You see a knife as a 'Buy Once' type of thing, so you choose something thats a treat (as a smith myself I can see the beauty and attention to detail in the Jacklore and would love to own one myself.... I just don't think I'd use it though as I'd be scared of killing it or loosing it)

Jansman seems to have the opposite view, a knife is a tool that you use and maintain until it no longer functions (just normal sharpening will destroy a knife over time) and then you buy a new one....Probably very similar if not identical

Perhaps I should start another thread, "Do you think of your knife as your watch or your shoes?"
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I thought long and hard before buying any, but ended up thinking that as i am still learning what i can do with a knife i would go for a cheap but robust one to start off, the hultifors heavy duty fit the bill, i have 2, if i loose them up the woods or kill them, i can get another for about £8 delivered.

once i had bashed them about i thought i would step up to the condor kephart, but that is still only around £30, i too would love a jacklore, they are a thing of beauty, i would be scared to use it, mabie when im grown up. :D
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ForgeCorvus wrote:Bunkai: Sorry if I came over badly. :oops:
I am interested in peoples different approaches to the same basic challenges
You see a knife as a 'Buy Once' type of thing, so you choose something thats a treat (as a smith myself I can see the beauty and attention to detail in the Jacklore and would love to own one myself.... I just don't think I'd use it though as I'd be scared of killing it or loosing it)

Jansman seems to have the opposite view, a knife is a tool that you use and maintain until it no longer functions (just normal sharpening will destroy a knife over time) and then you buy a new one....Probably very similar if not identical

Perhaps I should start another thread, "Do you think of your knife as your watch or your shoes?"
ForgeCorvus sorry my friend I was not taking any offence but.. I did come across defensive haha! Thing is I can't really justify owning a knife that costs that much from a purely practical point of view, but i'll give it a go.

I wanted the carbon steel as although it rusts (it's patina don't clean it off!) it takes an edge better than a stainless blade IMO and is easier to sharpen. I like good ol' english oak cause i'm a bit of a traditionalist. I like the design of the Woodlore; it's size suits my hands and it's more of a tool than a weapon.
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Re: Fixed Blade Recommendations

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I realise that this thread has been sleeping a while but I would also suggest a Mora or similar cheaply priced knife.

Not for the performance, though I feel Mora's offer that for their price but ask yourself this...what's one the first skills every knife owner tries to practice? Sharpening

Less soul destroying to watch your first flailing attempts damage a £10 knife than some £200 craftsman special.


That said, after 35 years practising most of my friends would rather try to skin with a camping mallet than one of my field sharpened blades.
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When I was diving I was always told to never carry a knife I would be afraid to lose or cause me to do something potentially dangerous to get it back if I dropped it.

I wouldn't hesitate to belt the back of the blade of one of mine with a rock or hammer if need be, they're just a tool for using to me - if I had spent a lot on something it would probably change my attitude.
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Has anyone tried a "light my fire Mora" the one that has a fire steel in the butt end?

im thinking for a car kit or grab bag, not a main knife.
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http://thegiftoasis.com/product/light-m ... Are28P8HAQ

this is the first one google brings up, just so you know what im on about?
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munchh wrote:Has anyone tried a "light my fire Mora" the one that has a fire steel in the butt end?

im thinking for a car kit or grab bag, not a main knife.
Yeah, I've got one. It's great, a good solid, but low cost, knife. It'll split kindling with ease by hitting the back of the blade with another log.

I've also got a heavier duty Gerber fixed blade (NOT a Bear Grylls branded one I might add!) which was about £80 and is my 'main' knife. My personal view (for what it's worth) on knives is that its primary purpose is as a tool and, in a survival situation, one that will help you stay alive. I want something that can take a beating without letting me down but there is a definite price "tipping point" to this and for my money, it's around the 80-100 quid mark. ;) ;)
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Its good to know the LMF Mora is worth it, im still on the fence as i have other knives and many fire steels, but to make a minimal kit i'm thinking this could be a good idea. :D
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