jansman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:03 pm
Trouble is with UBI, like our current welfare system, is that to prosper,it needs taxpayers: i.e. People with jobs.
Or more specifically it needs businesses and corporations to pay their taxes , the likes of google , Starbucks and the shitezers named affter the South American river . But greed being what it is they use loopholes , off shorting and any other trick they can to avoid taxes. This instantly puts the idea on the back But by far the biggest problem is that thiis idea like so many rely on growth and growth is slowing as the energy that fuels it becomes scarcer and harder to get to. Its thinking always of continuous growth that is prevelent on al sides of the political divide , none seem to understand the limits to growth , even the greens talk of it ffs.
People working part time rather than slaving away full time shouldn't necessarily be seen as a bad thing , it's pretty much only since the industrial revolution and increasing urbanisation that we've worked to the clock rather than more natural rythemes. I've heard modern day people described as wage slaves and recently read a very good comment that went along the lines of "if you don't believe you're a slave take tomorrow off and just go out with the kids"
As a politically left leaning person the idea of redistribution of wealth should be something I would want and to a degree it is but wiith an envoiirommental head on it isn't , at least not in 'this form ( wealth destruction would be better in that case than wealth redistribution). Put the money into services the public can access or use rather than spend would be a far better idea because it would affect people's habits prepper or not. Spread wealth out and people will spend more and more importantly consume more , buy more stuff , travel more( pollute more) to make their lives " richer" or " better" .
On the plus side for this to be introduced we'd have to have a pretty stable and prosperous economy , probably or ideally globally , which would to a degree make prepping or at least some aspects of it effectively redundant.
