Wow, this thread has really blown up! Blimey.
Not to put too fine a point on it, (imo) the location has to be rural, obviously, and remote enough to be safely out of the way, but not so remote that you become isolated in the event a problem occurs and you need help. I think you need to head north quite a ways to achieve that. I would say Scotland, in fact, but that's just my preference I suppose.
Not only is there more 'lebensraum', but you're also farther away from centralised beaurocracy, and military targets.
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I live in central Scotland, but felt an inkling to head further north into the Highlands, but unfortunately, the further north you go the land and climate changes drastically.
It might suit being away from urban areas, but at the same time, the hardship might cancel it out, if used to a certain amount of comfort.
Also, without having done research myself, there might be an objection to those not born there, as I think there is much in the way of close community spirit within those born there, but outsiders, not so much welcome I don’t think...as with any place...it’d be difficult to fit in I’d guess, plus others may follow your lead and head there...disrupting the status quo.
I would have liked to have bought the now unused Neist Point lighthouse, but never had the money if it ever was for sale anyway, Think it was actually the location used to film The Vanishing with Gerard Butler !
It might suit being away from urban areas, but at the same time, the hardship might cancel it out, if used to a certain amount of comfort.
Also, without having done research myself, there might be an objection to those not born there, as I think there is much in the way of close community spirit within those born there, but outsiders, not so much welcome I don’t think...as with any place...it’d be difficult to fit in I’d guess, plus others may follow your lead and head there...disrupting the status quo.
I would have liked to have bought the now unused Neist Point lighthouse, but never had the money if it ever was for sale anyway, Think it was actually the location used to film The Vanishing with Gerard Butler !
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For anyone who didnt know the meaning of the word "Lebensraum" (That would be me )
The geopolitical concept of Lebensraum (German for "living space") was the idea that land expansion was essential to the survival of a people. (Wiki)
The geopolitical concept of Lebensraum (German for "living space") was the idea that land expansion was essential to the survival of a people. (Wiki)
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I am sure we all have different ideas on an "ideal" location, but I guess the fundamentals are going to be much the same.
I would suggest that the scenario we might envisage ourselves being in at any given time would influence the choice of region, area and property.
A complete societal breakdown WROL situation might call for something more "remote" and "off grid".
A less dramatic situation might allow for something more "rural" and "connected".
What do you envision your near future needs to be and how far ahead do you want to plan for?
I would suggest that the scenario we might envisage ourselves being in at any given time would influence the choice of region, area and property.
A complete societal breakdown WROL situation might call for something more "remote" and "off grid".
A less dramatic situation might allow for something more "rural" and "connected".
What do you envision your near future needs to be and how far ahead do you want to plan for?
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If I had the money, I’d like to plan ahead at least as far as 6 months to a year...if not more...my whole house would be a prepper heaven !
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Yeah I wish you had too Arzosah! I think use of Muggleton as an example is simply brilliant!
LOL....what comes to mind is...RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
Showing definite wolfy tendencies there...are you a werewolf?
I can confirm that the rural scottish villages can be very against outsiders moving in and can be very mean and sometimes racist to anyone they don't deem "scottish". However adapting your accent helps to fit in - in the bigger villages/towns AND if we sacrifice some of the single members of the community to marry into the nearby scottish population...then eventually it should all work out. Either that or when all the new prepper babies are born and grow up then the animosity will be less.Lone wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:29 pm Also, without having done research myself, there might be an objection to those not born there, as I think there is much in the way of close community spirit within those born there, but outsiders, not so much welcome I don’t think...as with any place...it’d be difficult to fit in I’d guess, plus others may follow your lead and head there...disrupting the status quo.
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It's a good question and one that to me questions the whole reason for prepping.Arwen Thebard wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:42 pm
What do you envision your near future needs to be and how far ahead do you want to plan for?
I don't mean the idea of keeping a couple of hundred tins of beans in the house which is the sort of thing most of us do to give us an edge in a fairly temporary event.. That to me is personal prepping and isn't anything to be ashamed of but if we are talking about a community then we should be looking at preps that keep the whole community going generation after generation. I always think prepping should be about keeping the species going. To just keep oneself and family alive for the next 20 years is admirable and good for those involved but there's nothing after they've died then i feel ultimately it has failed.
As to the question of where i like your suggestions. The south is looking to feel the effects of climate change and sea level rise so perhaps not the best choice . Wales , Cumbria , west coast of Scotland maybe. Relatively closeish to services one might need to access but far enough away from large towns or cities although on such a small island there isn't really anywhere that's beyond a days drive away.
Talking of islands , they might sound good in some respects but do have drawbacks. I worked on the island on lake windermere some time ago. Very pleasant it was too most of the time. But in the middle of winter with horizontal sleet just getting back and forwards becomes a right pain in the arse.
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Not a werewolf I don’t think, don’t have any silver in the house to see if I have a bad reaction to it.
That said, just a few years ago, when seen by a niece of mine, due to my hair and beard, compared me to Wolverine...so I guess I’m now Old Man Logan.
Blades in my knuckles might be a good survival weapon, plus healing quickly too.
Apocalypse and being alone wouldn’t be a problem then.
As it is, I am just me..so will have to make do being human
That said, just a few years ago, when seen by a niece of mine, due to my hair and beard, compared me to Wolverine...so I guess I’m now Old Man Logan.
Blades in my knuckles might be a good survival weapon, plus healing quickly too.
Apocalypse and being alone wouldn’t be a problem then.
As it is, I am just me..so will have to make do being human
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Didn't you know? Apparently even lone wolves howl for a pack of their own?
Order some silver handcuffs from online to test that theory...very useful prepper item in an apocalypse for your no-shifting wolf man!
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Thanks I like to consider myself knowledgeable about words/terms but that one surpassed my limited reading!Arwen Thebard wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:23 pm For anyone who didnt know the meaning of the word "Lebensraum" (That would be me )
The geopolitical concept of Lebensraum (German for "living space") was the idea that land expansion was essential to the survival of a people. (Wiki)
You are very deep and I like that you are prepared to says those things!grenfell wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:08 pmIt's a good question and one that to me questions the whole reason for prepping.Arwen Thebard wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:42 pm
What do you envision your near future needs to be and how far ahead do you want to plan for?
To just keep oneself and family alive for the next 20 years is admirable and good for those involved but there's nothing after they've died then i feel ultimately it has failed.
I think there are different ways of prepping and different types of preppers. For some its a part of who they are, or just a way of life, others just a stopgap for regular/likely/short-term events to be prepared for.
I think it could be useful if we develop different tiers of prepping to help with identification. For example you have global, Regional, Local, Extended family (in SHTF scenario) and your own personal household. So for me a lot are only mainly interested in personal household & extended family (by which I mean friends and family or neighbours you couldn't turn away in a crisis and thus factor into your thinking possibly even decision making and if they are REALLY lucky...your prepping and preps).
This post seems to be about asking about would people like to be a part of a Local prepping community who could do normal things together but when SHTF pull together to help each other if they can?
I think a lot of us wouldn't resist trading if we needed something and another person had it...but I think a deeper network is sought...with more trust involved and possibly...commitment to some extent at least. Whether it be to try and work together in tough times or a pact not to raid each other when we know where you live etc etc.
For me I have to focus on the here and now. Maybe when I am in a stronger position or have prepper friends IRL I can then focus on the bigger picture. Because I don't think anyone can if they are a lone.
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