E10 petrol potential problems!

[CDT]

I don't know if anyone has seen this but this could be a pain in the bum for anyone who owns a classic petrol vehicle, or possibly up to an early/mid 2000s petrol engined vehicle (also petrol mowers, chainsaws, boats, low CC mopeds and motorbikes).

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/e10-petrol-explained

Basically the E10 that's replacing 95 in September 2021 uses higher levels of recycled ethanol to lower emissions, but won't be compatible with some older vehicles, meaning you'll be forced to used the more expensive "super unleaded/premium petrol" instead risk damaging fuel systems, pipes, gaskets, rubbers, etc. It's also not as efficient as the old petrol.

It may only be a slight inconveneince for most, be it through higher fuel costs or lower MPG, but it's something that I feel has been kept a little quiet and if classic car owners aren't aware they could end up doing some real damage.

The little conspiracy side of me thinks it's another ploy to force out ownership of old dinosaur juice powered vehicles under the guise of being green, but hey ho maybe that's just me.

[Le Mouse]

Tesco petrol stations have already gone over to E10 for their standard unleaded petrol - I did a double take last time I fill up. I was surprised they'd changed so early.

[CDT]

This is why it could be a problem for older car owners who may not even notice it's changed and start damaging their cars without even realising

[grenfell]

I get the impression the move is as much about eeking out the petrol rather than any real green motives. Pretty much how Brazil used cane sugar alcohol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil . That was largely a result of having no domestic oil at the time. Funnily enough i remember reading a Pat Kenneth article where he talked about this and went on to say that when they did discover oil it turned out to be light crude more suitable for petrol production than diesel so they used raw petrol to dilute the diesel giving them the only inflammable diesel in the world.
I have wondered about my two stroke tools . The Sthil site says they will be fine with E10 but i have purchased a gallon of the prieum stuff as i'm not wholley convinced.

[Le Mouse]

Well, as I fill up at Tesco, I've been using e10 for 2 or 3 weeks now. I can say that I'm definitely getting less miles per gallon. The petrol needle is going down a lot quicker. Petrol is expensive enough, it doesn't need to run out quicker too!

[ForgeCorvus]

https://www.mycarcheck.com/e10

My twenty year old Swedish Brick is going to be fine..... Apparently.

[pseudonym]

https://www.mycarcheck.com/e10

My twenty year old Swedish Brick is going to be fine..... Apparently.

ooo good checker, nice find.

[jansman]

I get the impression the move is as much about eeking out the petrol rather than any real green motives. Pretty much how Brazil used cane sugar alcohol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil . That was largely a result of having no domestic oil at the time. Funnily enough i remember reading a Pat Kenneth article where he talked about this and went on to say that when they did discover oil it turned out to be light crude more suitable for petrol production than diesel so they used raw petrol to dilute the diesel giving them the only inflammable diesel in the world.
I have wondered about my two stroke tools . The Sthil site says they will be fine with E10 but i have purchased a gallon of the prieum stuff as i'm not wholley convinced.

Two stroke tools crossed my mind too.

[Yorkshire Andy]

I get the impression the move is as much about eeking out the petrol rather than any real green motives. Pretty much how Brazil used cane sugar alcohol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil . That was largely a result of having no domestic oil at the time. Funnily enough i remember reading a Pat Kenneth article where he talked about this and went on to say that when they did discover oil it turned out to be light crude more suitable for petrol production than diesel so they used raw petrol to dilute the diesel giving them the only inflammable diesel in the world.
I have wondered about my two stroke tools . The Sthil site says they will be fine with E10 but i have purchased a gallon of the prieum stuff as i'm not wholley convinced.

Two stroke tools crossed my mind too.

https://www.toolstation.com/b3c-ethanol ... lsrc=aw.ds

[jansman]

I get the impression the move is as much about eeking out the petrol rather than any real green motives. Pretty much how Brazil used cane sugar alcohol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil . That was largely a result of having no domestic oil at the time. Funnily enough i remember reading a Pat Kenneth article where he talked about this and went on to say that when they did discover oil it turned out to be light crude more suitable for petrol production than diesel so they used raw petrol to dilute the diesel giving them the only inflammable diesel in the world.
I have wondered about my two stroke tools . The Sthil site says they will be fine with E10 but i have purchased a gallon of the prieum stuff as i'm not wholley convinced.

Two stroke tools crossed my mind too.

https://www.toolstation.com/b3c-ethanol ... lsrc=aw.ds

Cheers Andy.