Hi all!
The million dollar question! Will we end up with restrictions and looking like a lockdown of some sort again!?
It’s driving me crazy! Can’t do this again! Had my jabs want to just get back to normal!!
Stay safe!
Mike
Will we end up in lockdown again?
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Yorkshire Andy
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Re: Will we end up in lockdown again?
I'm guessing yes the data is going the wrong way....
But to what extent
My personal guess is going to be the plan B
Then vaccine passport no jab no playing out
Probably tell the at high risk to shield
Probably shut down / limit movement in pubs / restaurants.
But to what extent
My personal guess is going to be the plan B
Then vaccine passport no jab no playing out
Probably tell the at high risk to shield
Probably shut down / limit movement in pubs / restaurants.
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong 
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Re: Will we end up in lockdown again?
Sorry. Seems my post was redacted. Apologies if it broke a 'no politics rule'
Graceful Degradation! Prepping's objective summed up in two words. Turning Disaster into Mild Inconvenience by the power of fore-thought
Not Feeling Optimistic. Let me be wrong
Not Feeling Optimistic. Let me be wrong
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Yorkshire Andy
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Re: Will we end up in lockdown again?
I've not removed anything think I'm the only mod online at the moment
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Re: Will we end up in lockdown again?
Nothing definite or even suggestive from Scottish government yet - not that I've seen, anyway. Keeping a close eye as usual.
Re: Will we end up in lockdown again?
I probably didn't submit properly as I went off to check the rules. My post related to the different opinions of the BMA and the government.Yorkshire Andy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:54 pmI've not removed anything think I'm the only mod online at the moment
YA. Please redact this if it introduces too much of a political angle. I was only trying to answer the OP's question.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bma+urges+government
Graceful Degradation! Prepping's objective summed up in two words. Turning Disaster into Mild Inconvenience by the power of fore-thought
Not Feeling Optimistic. Let me be wrong
Not Feeling Optimistic. Let me be wrong
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diamond lil
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Re: Will we end up in lockdown again?
I just wish we had somebody in charge who could work out an approach and stick to it, whatever it is. This U turning and constant bickering between different interests is lethal. But I suppose if it gets bad enough then it will sort itself out without intervention, either people will stay at home through choice or they will be too ill to go to work? Hard to say really, nowt as queer as folk, as we've found out this last year
Re: Will we end up in lockdown again?
I can't personally see a full on lockdown being reinposed. There are medical experts saying we should but i feel the "money men" will push harder for the economy to be kept open. There appears to be logic with both approaches and it puts the government , any government , in an awkward position. There will probably be some sort of compromise reintroducing mask wearing , limiting numbers at gatherings and encouraging home working but i really can't see factories and shops being shut down and millions put back on furlough. Then there's the question of how wellit would be adhered to should they try to lockdown again. I feel most are truely fed up of the situation and a lot simply wouldn't comply if they can get away with it.
Re: Will we end up in lockdown again?
Johnson said we wouldn't have a lockdown, then we did.
Johnson said we wouldn't have a second/third lockdown, then we did.
Johnson said people could meet up for Christmas and cases went sky high.
A recent report said he had acted too late more than once (https://committees.parliament.uk/commit ... published/).
Johnson says we won't have further lockdowns; history says he's got it wrong again.
The only caveat to this is that I believe we should be far more focussed on hospitalisations/deaths than cases; theres more than a million people aged over 85, if all of them got it, there'd be thousands of deaths. There's ten million under 14, if all of them get it, deaths would be in the low hundreds.
So if the cases are mostly schoolkids that's far less conerning than if they're older people.
Johnson said we wouldn't have a second/third lockdown, then we did.
Johnson said people could meet up for Christmas and cases went sky high.
A recent report said he had acted too late more than once (https://committees.parliament.uk/commit ... published/).
Johnson says we won't have further lockdowns; history says he's got it wrong again.
The only caveat to this is that I believe we should be far more focussed on hospitalisations/deaths than cases; theres more than a million people aged over 85, if all of them got it, there'd be thousands of deaths. There's ten million under 14, if all of them get it, deaths would be in the low hundreds.
So if the cases are mostly schoolkids that's far less conerning than if they're older people.
Re: Will we end up in lockdown again?
Agree with Korolev
Absolute numbers of infections are mostly irrelevant. It’s how many are in hospital and how many are dying that matters.
It’s also important to understand the profile of people in hospital. In North London about 70% of those in hospital with covid are eligible for the vaccine and have chosen not to have it for whatever reason. Chosen.
I think public opinion will be unsympathetic to supporting a lockdown to protect people who have chosen to remain at risk. A very different dynamic to being asked to sacrifice a lot to protect those who needed protecting.
I’m certainly unsympathetic. Angry in fact that those people are now blocking healthcare for those that need it in other disciplines.
Absolute numbers of infections are mostly irrelevant. It’s how many are in hospital and how many are dying that matters.
It’s also important to understand the profile of people in hospital. In North London about 70% of those in hospital with covid are eligible for the vaccine and have chosen not to have it for whatever reason. Chosen.
I think public opinion will be unsympathetic to supporting a lockdown to protect people who have chosen to remain at risk. A very different dynamic to being asked to sacrifice a lot to protect those who needed protecting.
I’m certainly unsympathetic. Angry in fact that those people are now blocking healthcare for those that need it in other disciplines.