Catching fish without a rod

[jansman]

Gill nets are very effective,especially for brown trout in my area(so I am told)The Poles round here use trotlines to good effect,and they are cheap and discreet.I used to run lines to catch eels-legally,and I made good money doing it.Sadly the eel is in worldwide decline.

Anyhow , I'm off to catch some big chub now -with a rod licence!

[diamond lil]

The Poles ame out from Edinburgh and cleared out our rivers as well. And they were chased off a few fish farms.

[cumbriasurvivalist]

Lines are ok for catching trout but not good for salmon as they will snap the line or pull the hook out of their mouth.The reaon is the lines must be secured.Lines work in the sea as they are only secured to floats.Your bang on the money about eels being in decline and its a sad state of affairs.When we used to set lines for trout as as kid thats what you caught mostly eels,good eating but they are all but extinct in may places.One of the strangest sites i ever seen was a huge run of lampray eeels in broad day light.There was 100s if not 1000s.Thats the only time ive ever seen lampray eels in these rivers in cumbria.The way to catch salmon with lines if attach appx 4 ft of strong line to a hook,bait it(shrimps are great),weight and a plastic pop bottle,attached to say 40 ft of parra cord & secure.What happens the fish trys to swim to the bottom of the pool but its fighting a loosing battle as the pop bottle keeps bringing it to the surface and it eventualy drowns.Off cousre you should only do this is if TSHTF and society collapses.There are certain things(plants) you can put into a pool to kill the fish but i would never do this as it kills everything from minnows,eels,young salmon/trout ,slamon,trout the lot.

[diamond lil]

Wouldnt try a practice run though - the bailiffs are seriously smart. Up here they are running around in blacked-out landrovers with night sights on Of course that's the Tweed and they have big problems with poachers. But they have a really bad name for being violent. My son got lifted once when he was a teenager and they threw him in the back with smelly wet dogs and cans of petrol, then threw him out into a dung heap Oh if only I had got my hands on them, I'd have rubbed their bloody noses in it!

[cumbriasurvivalist]

Wouldnt try a practice run though - the bailiffs are seriously smart. Up here they are running around in blacked-out landrovers with night sights on Of course that's the Tweed and they have big problems with poachers. But they have a really bad name for being violent. My son got lifted once when he was a teenager and they threw him in the back with smelly wet dogs and cans of petrol, then threw him out into a dung heap Oh if only I had got my hands on them, I'd have rubbed their bloody noses in it!

The baliffs in cumbria have a hard job really as there are only 6 full time baliffs to cover appx at least 60 miles of river and i also have my onw night sights but never use them as i no longer go netting.While i have a conviction for netting the river in my younger days.If you are genuinly taking just one for the pot and using the old methonds like using your hands or a click hook then they are pretty fair.Two years ago i was seen catching a slamon by hand,i was approached by a baliff and he said he had no problem with one for the pot.Same thing hgappened to a pal a few years ago also.Funny enough i have heard about the tough/harsh baliffs on the tweed but this is due to the guys setting huge gills nets,armoured nets and even cymag and poachers coming from different countys.These are the people who do serious damage to fish stocks.I have heard they do operate a zero tolerance attitude up there.I would also never knowingly take a hen fish from the river,not a slamon anyway.Its quite easy to tell as cock fish have a hooked bottom jaw.Thanks for the reply/input.

[cumbriasurvivalist]

PS-Lill better to be thrown on the dun heap that taken to court i suppose and getting a criminal record Did it stop your lad from indulging in such activities .

[Carrot Cruncher]

I think you are right CS, there is a lot of difference (although maybe not legally) between catching "one for the pot" and some of the organised gangs that would completely devastate fish stocks and who are quite happy to use violence against anyone trying to stop them.

I heard a couple of coarse fishermen on the Exe moaning about eastern europeans eating the fish that they catch out of the river....it seams to me that the eastern europeans had the right idea (again maybe not legally) but at least they were hunting/catching fish for food, unlike the "proper" anglers who were doing it for pleasure.

And before any Coarse Anglers start moaning , I know they also do a lot of conservation work and maintainence of rivers..... as well as hooking fish for pleasure

[diamond lil]

Yea- he gave up fishing and took up shooting instead - and I do like a nice bit of pheasant more than I like fish so it worked out ok
I thought it was a bit unfair to blame the Poles really, because when they arrived over here they found it hard to believe that every inch of ground & every teaspoon of water - plus everything that lived on or in it -belonged to some landowner . I find it bloody hard meself and I grew up with it LOL

[bulldogeagle]

or you could get a few sticks of dynamite-Crocodile Dundee style

That would be illegal!

we ARE talking after TSHTF-OK??

[diamond lil]

Course we are.