Size of suitable food store

[cumbriasurvivalist]

Thanks for the replys,very informative.I have also ate things out of date,im not talking packeted ham and the like but tinned foods,dried foods.If food is cooked long enough at a high enough temprature would this kill any/all or even most germs?

[beefy0978]

Corned beef seems to last for ages!

[jansman]

No worries, I am big enough and ugly enough to take it.

I am interested in this as most of my food store is tinned stuff. I have eaten lots of tinned stuff that has been out of date with no ill effects although I suppose this could just be luck on my part.

I am curious to know what foods last the longest in tins or what you would recommend in the tinned category. Would you ever eat something out of a tin whose date has been and gone?

Be lucky (and Staphylococcus free)

Tins are good!Most of my stores are tins.Legumes(peas and beans )hold well-and you can eat them past best before(bb)Meat is great, usually huge shelf life,and will do well after bb.The British Expeditionary Force in WWII were using corned beef canned in ww1!Generally anything acidic is best used by bb date.Tomatoes are a prime example of this,look at the White plasticised lining in the can.In time the acid will react with the can,and botulism is a real risk.Contract that you are dead.
Tins are great storage food.Just check for excessive rust,dents,and ESPECIALLY BULGING.
The Food Standards Agency have a saying that holds true

'If in doubt,throw it out'
It's thought that whilst primitive man lives a hard life,which shortened his lifespan,it was probably food poisoning that saw many off.With the discovery of fire making the population started to rise.The probable cause would have been e-Coli ,shit contamination to you and me!And they probably had a stronger digestive system

[jansman]

Thanks for the replys,very informative.I have also ate things out of date,im not talking packeted ham and the like but tinned foods,dried foods.If food is cooked long enough at a high enough temprature would this kill any/all or even most germs?

Most pathogens can be killed by cooking at a constant heat of 67 degrees c or above for ten mins+.however there are exceptions.my favourite e-Coli is a real bugger to kill.BacillusCereus(found in cooked rice)won't die either.Listeria , found in dairy and soft cheeses can't be killed because you don't cook Brie!One of the reasons pregnant women should not eat these things.
One of the main things regarding food safety though is the seperation of raw from cooked foods.and proper handwashing.

[Bladerunner]

You have a FAVOURITE E-COLI!!!!!!!

Thanks for the info.

Do the think the seals on tins that have a pull top are weaker than ones without?

I have noticed that Heinz tins don't stack well because the bottoms are the same as the top which is annoying. Most other tins have a rounded bottom which makes them stack a lot easier, even on cheap own brand products. I wonder why Heinz are one of the few that are too lazy (or tight fisted) to change this.

I suppose it would cost money to change their tinning machines. Still, very annoying once you get to 3 high.

Be lucky (and OCD)

[jansman]

You have a FAVOURITE E-COLI!!!!!!!

Thanks for the info.

Do the think the seals on tins that have a pull top are weaker than ones without?

I have noticed that Heinz tins don't stack well because the bottoms are the same as the top which is annoying. Most other tins have a rounded bottom which makes them stack a lot easier, even on cheap own brand products. I wonder why Heinz are one of the few that are too lazy (or tight fisted) to change this.

I suppose it would cost money to change their tinning machines. Still, very annoying once you get to 3 high.

Be lucky (and OCD)

When I say favourite e-Coli , it's because its one I have to monitor constantly!
Speaking of pull tops,I don't think they are that strong-looking .And yes,it is annoying that some cans won't stack.The supermarkets have been looking into square cans to maximise space inside trucks.
Still it is a good method of preservation ,and it has not changed much considering it was developed to feed the Napoleonic Armies.

[Bladerunner]

I love the idea of square cans as you lose so much space in a cupboard with round cans.

As long as the corners are slightly rounded then the can shouldn't lose any of it's strength although they would have to be pull tops.

Maybe I could invent a can opener that goes round corners, this time next year I could be a millionaire.

By the way, my favourite disease is Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, for no other reason than it just rolls off the tongue.

Be lucky (and square)