Cheap heating....?

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Vitamin c
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Cheap heating....?

Post by Vitamin c »

With red desel at roughly £1a ltr half the price of white , why not buy one of those cheap Chinese air heaters that run on desel only draw back is it only heats one room snd needs a venting .
Compared to all the youtube heat your home for penny's scams this one works .
Anybody can buy red just don't stick it in your car .
Fill er up jacko...
Yorkshire Andy
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I'm running mine on 32sec kerro (heating oil) they run much cleaner on it ..

It's heating the shed as and when needed.. mines got a little remote so I can start it half an hour before I go pottering ;)

Ideally the unit needs to be mounted outside (under cover) you don't really want the exhaust connection inside the dwelling likewise not the fuel spill diesel or kerro on the carpet and the wife will nail parts of your anatomy to the front door.... And the fuel pump tick tick tick tick will drive you mad :lol:


If you want to mount it inside be prepared to hire / rent / buy a diamond hole cutter to cut a 125mm hole in the wall and modify the turret plate with a longer pipe to sleeve the thickness of the wall

https://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayI ... spheader=1

This sealed to the wall will keep all combustion / fuel connections outside .. and massively reduce the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning ...

Ensure you mount it side one with the glow plug uppermost or it'll leak diesel....


Then bin the supplied fuel line and filter the green china stuff goes brittle and leaks likewise the supplied filter... Lawnmower repair shop for a inline filter and motorfactors for quality fuel line off a roll ....



The fuel tanks are dubious quality too :lol: you can get a proper jerry can cap adaptation

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/195398505535 ... U8QAvD_BwE

This lets you use standard metal jerry cans to store / transport fuel and you can run one can whilst refilling another saving on messing about decanting into a thin placcy tank at -5°c trying not to spill it


The supplied fuel hose and exhaust clips are erm crap so buy proper jubilee clips


If in doubt flat out... Make a habit of banging it on full power before shut down for 10 minutes to burn any coke off.....

They need close to 15a at start up so you'll need a healthy battery and a battery charger / a good 12v PSU to keep it happy

Also be aware many are not ce marked so you'll have fun if it causes a fire with the house insurance :lol:. The exhaust can glow a nice cherry red.. so keep it away from any timber / combustibles the supplied silencer is next to useless :?

I've got emergency plans to duct mine I to the house should the need arise ;)
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong ;)

Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Yorkshire Andy
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On the subject of red it's fine to heat a domestic building on red but not a commercial property the boat yard man was happy to sell it once I'd filled out his little HMRC form ... He laughed as I put my reg number down that if HMRC pull me they'll find it's unleaded :lol:
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Vitamin c
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Post by Vitamin c »

Andy
Do you have any opinions on the growing number of youtube videos showing folk burning, veg oil , old car oil , small amounts of petrol mixed into a even cheaper homemade fuel.
Fill er up jacko...
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My brother uses a diseased - sorry DIESELED :lol: heater in his lovely Showman Caravan and very posh extension. He was using paraffin,but the price is horrendous. Even where he is ,right out in the country, he is finding red diesel difficult/ and ‘official’ to deal with,so he tells me that £1.88 litre for standard diesel is quite adequate- for him.

As he says,during this cold,the heater is superb,and he does have the wood stove in the van too. Main thing,he’s warm.
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From what I've seen it's a recipe for causing grief there's a little gauze in the burn chamber that helps vapourise the diesel. This gets sooted up if your not getting a clean burn .. veg oil is way too thick old engine oil full of carbon deposits and petrol way too volatile for the job..

Veg oil is about the same price per litre as red diesel so there's no savings as such to be had
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When you look at COST of all heating, there is nothing,whatever we use,that is obviously cheap. Without going away from your diesel topic ,my own solid fuel is cheap. In fact just wood - at this point - is zero. Smokeless coal is not. In fact it is effectively double the price of a year ago ,just like everything else .
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And free wood has a cost in labour. It is only an option if you are fit to chop it, room to store it and a stove or fireplace to burn it in.
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GillyBee wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:10 am And free wood has a cost in labour. It is only an option if you are fit to chop it, room to store it and a stove or fireplace to burn it in.
Precisely! The fitness is THE issue here now. Fortunately,I have enough cut for this Winter and next. That aside though, I have had notifications about our power going up from 1/1/23 - like everyone else. It’s gonna make a difference ( not good) to some poorer folks.
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jansman wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:16 am
Precisely! The fitness is THE issue here now. Fortunately,I have enough cut for this Winter and next.
You already know; but worth reiterating:

Work smarter not harder,

If you can get it delivered already cut to length great,

if not have it dropped as close to your stacking point as possible.

with my heart condition it is worth more for me to have someone fell, cut, split and dry, and deliver it to me in large rubble sacks then it is for the price it could cost me.

All I have to do is stack it into the wood shed, and carry indoors to burn.
Two is one and one is none, but three is even better.