Mushroom growing

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Rusty74
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Re: Mushroom growing

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i seem to recall one of my late grandfathers growing mushrooms,and seem to remember him keeping them in the airing cupboard to grow them,where it was dark and warm,could be wrong though?
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XRS001 wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:23 pm
steptoe wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:59 pm
Rusty74 wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:05 pm iv always said that us in work are treated like mushrooms,"kept in the dark and feed on bull s##t" lol
LOL rusty you read my mind , The government treats us all like mushrooms .

On the subjetc i have tried many times over the years and out of the times i have tried i think i only once got a good harvest the rest i got a few bits and bobs so to speak not worth the time or energy , but i will say special herb growers do sometimes grow mushies in the same grow areqa to get a high C02 output

If you want to grow a big crop i think you have to have all the equipment
The above post about growing Shiitake. I grew them semi pro as a side hustle for very little work I did well with them. I still supply 3 customers with about 3lbs every 3 months. I don't pay for spawn or the logs, sales do. Get the shade and watering right and it's a walk in the park.
I have tried so many kits over the years and just never get a good haul , i have done the bake the log in the oven to kill all the bactria then drill it and put the wooden dowls in , i have done so many kits over the years i gave up as i mostly use just button or chesnut mushies anyway , i did try lions mane and shitake just never got anything back and as i say to grow in large quantities i read you need Co2 production units and so on and well if it gets to complicated i just loose interested , i am a plant it in the ground and if it grows it grows if it don't then i don't grow it again .

I did the muchroom kits in boxes in the logs and the hale bales and some of the kits get very expensive and well laying out large sums to grow a few mushrooms unless like you you get large returns then i find it not worth the time
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Re: Mushroom growing

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Ok so baking the logs is not recommended.
As long as the tree was visibly disease free you should be fine.

Cooking the log drums it out. Once it's dry you can't get that moisture back in .

The logs should be cut in February/ early March which is when the sap is rising this winer sap is full of sugars which the fungi need to get going. If you kiln dry the log the sugars change and are no longer available to the fungi.

It is true that the fungi spawn is grown in autoclaved oak sawdust but that is done in special bags and the moisture content remains high.

Stamets is very clear that any heat treating should have high levels of moisture present to stop the sugars changing to other compounds.

You hygiene should be meticulous when growing & harvesting fungi and you need to make sure you have a good rotation system as you are growing them.

Plenty of all day summer shade is the biggest asset and plenty of water. Expect to water them at least 2- 3 times a week on dry days in the 1st year.
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XRS001 wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:37 pm Ok so baking the logs is not recommended.
As long as the tree was visibly disease free you should be fine.

Cooking the log drums it out. Once it's dry you can't get that moisture back in .

The logs should be cut in February/ early March which is when the sap is rising this winer sap is full of sugars which the fungi need to get going. If you kiln dry the log the sugars change and are no longer available to the fungi.

It is true that the fungi spawn is grown in autoclaved oak sawdust but that is done in special bags and the moisture content remains high.

Stamets is very clear that any heat treating should have high levels of moisture present to stop the sugars changing to other compounds.

You hygiene should be meticulous when growing & harvesting fungi and you need to make sure you have a good rotation system as you are growing them.

Plenty of all day summer shade is the biggest asset and plenty of water. Expect to water them at least 2- 3 times a week on dry days in the 1st year.
Well i might be tempted to try again one day but right now i have so many things on the go with growing , and now also with reviews on stuff i am buying in so having time to research more on it is just not in the books for now .

Thanks for the info on how to do it i just followed the leaflet that came with it
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Re: Mushroom growing

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Have looked at a few things, including using coffee grounds, working in a pub kitchen does have the odd advantage as I can get a good few of them. Will let you know how go on. Cheers peeps.
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DustyDog wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:02 pm Have looked at a few things, including using coffee grounds, working in a pub kitchen does have the odd advantage as I can get a good few of them. Will let you know how go on. Cheers peeps.
Hey dusty please do let us know i would love to grow more mushies but as i say my return was poor so well i just gave it up as a bad thing , like growing onions here they just do not do well so switched to the eygpian tree onions
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Steptoe, Egyptian tree onion??? Never heard of that.
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DustyDog wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:27 am Steptoe, Egyptian tree onion??? Never heard of that.
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Cheers, they look interesting those walking onions 🧅.
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DustyDog wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:14 pm Cheers, they look interesting those walking onions 🧅.
Sorry just seen the reply yes i think it was jansman that put me on to them lol i never heard of them either until the people here told me as i struggle with onions here not sure why they just do not bulb up well so i am looking forward to the walking onions and the welsh onions as we do not mind small onions as i can just chop and throw in stews and i can fine dice for the wife sandwiches .

I planted 60 odd in the raised beds and in some pots to to be planted roudn the garden in the herb areas