Long Dead Chicken ? Shelf life?

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jansman wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:03 am Provided it’s been solid frozen since you put it there it will be fine. Back in the 80’s we had, by law, to sell measures of EU food mountains- obviously as butchers, our sections were meat. We had frozen beef and pork that was 8 and 9 years old. And good stuff too!
Hi mate is that right beef is better mature , i think that is right , i love beef but the wife will not eat it so i rarely get steak in for me now and with the price it is killing but i do now and then try and grab a small joint and roast it then i will use it sliced in sandwiches to .

I also like a bit of jerky and blitong but not had the time ot prep it lately but with the new dehydrator i might try it for a new batch .

Jen i am with jansman on it we had a chicken that was in the freezer 3 years don't ask it got moved from one freezer to the other and so on and got hidden under some summer fruit and not until the sife made some summer puddings did we find it cooked it slow wrapped in foil and i put a little butter on it and it came out a treat
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steptoe wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:00 pm
jansman wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:03 am Provided it’s been solid frozen since you put it there it will be fine. Back in the 80’s we had, by law, to sell measures of EU food mountains- obviously as butchers, our sections were meat. We had frozen beef and pork that was 8 and 9 years old. And good stuff too!
Hi mate is that right beef is better mature , i think that is right , i love beef but the wife will not eat it so i rarely get steak in for me now and with the price it is killing but i do now and then try and grab a small joint and roast it then i will use it sliced in sandwiches to .

I also like a bit of jerky and blitong but not had the time ot prep it lately but with the new dehydrator i might try it for a new batch .

Jen i am with jansman on it we had a chicken that was in the freezer 3 years don't ask it got moved from one freezer to the other and so on and got hidden under some summer fruit and not until the sife made some summer puddings did we find it cooked it slow wrapped in foil and i put a little butter on it and it came out a treat
Beef is generally good upon maturity, but often the supermarket beef can be just three days! That can be good ,bad or somewhere in between, and that’s the truth.
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jansman wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:32 pm
steptoe wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:00 pm
jansman wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:03 am Provided it’s been solid frozen since you put it there it will be fine. Back in the 80’s we had, by law, to sell measures of EU food mountains- obviously as butchers, our sections were meat. We had frozen beef and pork that was 8 and 9 years old. And good stuff too!
Hi mate is that right beef is better mature , i think that is right , i love beef but the wife will not eat it so i rarely get steak in for me now and with the price it is killing but i do now and then try and grab a small joint and roast it then i will use it sliced in sandwiches to .

I also like a bit of jerky and blitong but not had the time ot prep it lately but with the new dehydrator i might try it for a new batch .

Jen i am with jansman on it we had a chicken that was in the freezer 3 years don't ask it got moved from one freezer to the other and so on and got hidden under some summer fruit and not until the sife made some summer puddings did we find it cooked it slow wrapped in foil and i put a little butter on it and it came out a treat
Beef is generally good upon maturity, but often the supermarket beef can be just three days! That can be good ,bad or somewhere in between, and that’s the truth.
Wow i have always wondered about the so called 21 day matured stuff because i have some time brouhgt very cheap looking steak a trim and a season and it is as good as the best they sell , i think lidl was the worst beef i even had i got a cheap piece once cut in in half half went for jerky and i slow cooked the other in the oven with a little water in the foil parcel and a clove of garlic and some pepper corns i kid you not it was like shoe leather and i put it out for the fox lol and we watch him take it that night well the mix of food and he was chewing on that bit of beef like chewing gum .

I think these days it is getting hard to trust supermarkets meat but i wish i could afford the local butchers prices a free range chicken 1.8kg was £18.99 and the beef well it was eye watering , if we go in the little village i do sometimes walk past and look and then the wife will say have a treat but i can get 3 1.6kg chickens for a £10 at morrisons and it lasts us 3 days pre chicken , i also remember i use to love buying oxtail and doing a nice stew and we would put dumplings in to bulk it up but oxtail is silly money as is sheeps breast , do you still have much to do with the meat trade , i notice lots of people selling meat on FB and i pitty the fools buying it stuff cut up on a garage floor at best and food poisoning at worst
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steptoe wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:04 pm i notice lots of people selling meat on FB and i pitty the fools buying it stuff cut up on a garage floor at best and food poisoning at worst
Oh wow!
meat from FB marketplace? Could be anything, from anywhere? Also against FB rules!
https://www.facebook.com/policies_cente ... ce/animals

Serious question for Jansman..... What's your opinion of the big meat vans that you sometimes see at big open markets, where the butcher/salesman with microphone, sells off lots of meat from the side of the van "Who'll give me a tenner for not one, not two, but three....... and I'll throw in some ..."

Is that dodgy meat that would not stand inspection? Or is it honest pile 'em high, sell 'em cheap?
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jennyjj01 wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:17 pm
steptoe wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:04 pm i notice lots of people selling meat on FB and i pitty the fools buying it stuff cut up on a garage floor at best and food poisoning at worst
Oh wow!
meat from FB marketplace? Could be anything, from anywhere? Also against FB rules!
https://www.facebook.com/policies_cente ... ce/animals

Serious question for Jansman..... What's your opinion of the big meat vans that you sometimes see at big open markets, where the butcher/salesman with microphone, sells off lots of meat from the side of the van "Who'll give me a tenner for not one, not two, but three....... and I'll throw in some ..."

Is that dodgy meat that would not stand inspection? Or is it honest pile 'em high, sell 'em cheap?
The market/ truck butchers are fine. Proper. 20 years ago I used to ‘pack’ trucks for a team of market salesmen.
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jansman wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:16 pm
jennyjj01 wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:17 pm
steptoe wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:04 pm i notice lots of people selling meat on FB and i pitty the fools buying it stuff cut up on a garage floor at best and food poisoning at worst
Oh wow!
meat from FB marketplace? Could be anything, from anywhere? Also against FB rules!
https://www.facebook.com/policies_cente ... ce/animals

Serious question for Jansman..... What's your opinion of the big meat vans that you sometimes see at big open markets, where the butcher/salesman with microphone, sells off lots of meat from the side of the van "Who'll give me a tenner for not one, not two, but three....... and I'll throw in some ..."

Is that dodgy meat that would not stand inspection? Or is it honest pile 'em high, sell 'em cheap?
The market/ truck butchers are fine. Proper. 20 years ago I used to ‘pack’ trucks for a team of market salesmen.

I'd agree most of them are ticketed on the food hygiene side but most are well not exactly a bargain Mrs a used to stand there adding up the stuff they were piling on the scales
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It’s all old fashioned theatrical selling. They are pretty much all good quality hygiene- I cut for two locally- but like everything else,the customers don’t get something for nothing!
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jansman wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:47 am It’s all old fashioned theatrical selling. They are pretty much all good quality hygiene- I cut for two locally- but like everything else,the customers don’t get something for nothing!
Your so right no one gets something for nothing in the game .

I can say we use yo use the market butcher for many years back in hertfordshire and always had great deals but then again when you get to know the guys and shout them a coffee on a bitter cold day with rain hissing down and go regular they do tend to drop you a wink if you know what i mean i use to love getting huge joints and then we would go home chop and portion , but i will say we did speak to the local butcher in the village i grew up with and well went wo school with his sister and use to be great friend so we use to get half a pig or sheep at a time then bring it home chop and portion worked out a great deal cheaper if you put the work in .

i am hoping to get some nice lamb chump chops i really fancy a lamb stew i can at best mnake it and wife gets hers as a meals me i can pickl the bones and throw it in the blender but omg yum lol , i can tell you the baby food rice pudding and pear by hienz is rubbish compared to the 1980's version lol , i use to when feeding my nephew one for you 1 for me lol
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Wandering OT as usual, but I could live on lamb stew 3 times a day every day. Lovely.
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Found pics of jenny's mate cooking the Ukrainian chicken
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Lil it's certainly going back to stew weather next week looking at the forecast
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