The deep purpose for preppers

[Arzosah]

The foodbanks are huge too of course, as Jenny and Kiwififer mention. Though personally I won't donate to any organisation that puts its religion front and centre, I don't care what they do, there's plenty of choices if you want to help people. Which is my point all along, really

[Frnc]

This is different, it's the official structure, but it's worth checking out if you haven't already. They give general advice to individual preppers.

The UK government emergency prepared page links to local groups called Resilience Forums. Eg it links directly to Cheshire Resilience. https://cheshireresilience.org.uk/ "We bring together your local emergency services, National Health Service and local authorities, plus other agencies who can help to prepare and respond to any event." "Under the Civil Contingencies Act (2004) every part of the United Kingdom was required to establish a Local Resilience Forum – a multi-agency group covering a policing area which shares information and resources, and respond together to an incident." Lists and links include councils, police, fire, water etc.

Manchester council links to https://www.gmemergencyplanning.org.uk/risks/ GREATER MANCHESTER PREPARED Greater Manchester agencies working in partnership. It has a twitter account and lists other twitter accounts you can follow like police, flood warnings, fire service etc.

If you look at GM Prepared twitter, you can see who they are following, eg Fire, councils,, weather etc.

[Kiwififer]

I should also add seeing it is Eid tomorrow that I have also seen Muslim charities donate money and put on feeding stations and the Sikh temple in Edinburgh regularly give food to a homeless hostel I used to work at.

Starving folk don’t care really

[Frnc]

My way is definitely not the easy for others

It's not just about "easy", its about being appropriate, homegrown, and sustainable. The Civil Defence Corps has been gone a long time in this country, and the urge to protect, to help the community, has long since transmuted into other organisations. It exists in tandem with, and opposition to, the selfishness and disregard for others described above. The polarisation of society is demonstrated in many ways, this being one of them.

I think there are many people who want to divide us, and that we have become more divided. There is a tendency to see everything in simplistic terms. Often there is no data, no analysis, no subtlety. Just a "with me or against me", a quick label, often derogatory. It's dangerous. It's not just this country, it's happening in many countries. There's no debate at all. Fanatical tribes at war over things they've never researched, don't even know the basic facts about. Sometimes it's just a label, sometimes people do actually take up extreme views. But for every one with extreme views, there many who get labelled as having those extreme views, when they don't really, just because they don't have the opposite extreme views. People label someone as something they are not, and then they refuse any discussion, as if accusation, based on more or less nothing, is proof of the fact.

[Trojanhorse]

There is also the https://jcac.org.uk/about-us/ . Has anyone had any dealings with them or know them?

[jansman]

I have never come across the idea that us Preppers are here to save the planet and its population! The only reason I am a prepper is to look after myself and my family and best friends. Beyond that, other folks can deal with their own survival!

[Kiwififer]

The term Civil defence has actually got me thinking of when I used to live in New Zealand. I worked for a mental health organisation down there, I remember they had a massive chest filled with super-noodles and other equally dried foods. If I remember correctly, it was enough to feed every service user for around five days and I think they had to have it by law in case Rangitoto blew up in Auckland Harbour.

I’m sure they never bothered about end of the world stuff, to them civil defence was a cyclone was going to hit and how do we get through the next few days, pretty much like what has happened a few weeks back. The good thing to see was that communities that were cut off came together, rescued vulnerable people and helped each other out. Mateship in action, they are pretty good at it.

[Frnc]

The good thing to see was that communities that were cut off came together, rescued vulnerable people and helped each other out. Mateship in action, they are pretty good at it.

This is something that is on my Myths thread, source of the original list is WHO

"Myth:
Disasters bring out the worst in human behavior.
Reality:
Although isolated cases of antisocial behavior exist, the majority of people respond spontaneously and generously.

Myth:
The affected population is too shocked and helpless to take responsibilityfor their own survival.
Reality:
On the contrary, many find new strengthduring an emergency, as evidenced by the thousands of volunteers who spontaneously united to sift through the rubble in search of victims after the 1985 Mexico City earthquake."

[Kiwififer]

You also saw that as a nation.

When the earthquake hit Christchurch, just about the entire country opened their doors and said to the people of Canterbury ‘come stay with us’.

It was inspiring in so many ways.

[jennyjj01]

The foodbanks are huge too of course, as Jenny and Kiwififer mention. Though personally I won't donate to any organisation that puts its religion front and centre, I don't care what they do, there's plenty of choices if you want to help people. Which is my point all along, really

I'm torn on this. As a devout atheist, I too object to helping any religious organisation. But try to find a non-religious food bank. At the end of the day, I remain transactional about it.