Water storage

[Frnc]

I was asking GPT about legionella risk in containers during the hot weather. Got into a general chat about my storage situation. Legionella risk is fairly low. You mainly get legionaires from aerosols (tiny droplets), so a garden hose is a bigger risk.

Following this chat I decided on a few changes:

Change from yearly water swap to 6 monthly. One to be done after the summer, so the warm water is changed. So, I think September and March. Stick to schedule, no delaying for months! I've put a 6 month repeating diary entry for mid-Sept, which is just before my winter preps.

Add Oasis Puri tabs. GPT recommends dropping them in after filling, and leave half an hour before sealing.

Move the two that are below a south facing window, if possible. They are well covered, but it's not ideal. It's a fire escape, anyway.

[YAFretter]

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[Yorkshire Andy]

When you've drunk iodine sterilised water you'll know why its not done much there days

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[Frnc]

I bought a small supply of Oasis tabs for a survival kit a couple of years ago and found them convenient but expensive. Have you considered iodine in a dropper? I don't want to sound like a slavish Cody Lundin follower and I don't have hands-on with this method... but I bet it would be cheaper.

I have 100 x 33mg tablets I bought in 2022 for £3.90, expiry July 2027. These steralise 4-5 litres each. I need 12 tablets for 60 litres, twice a year, so I'll use about half of them by the expiry date.
They are on ebay for £5.99 now, expiry 2029.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203218754320 ... 54RCWJ8V7F

So in 2027 I should buy about twice as many, so I have enough to use, plus spare. 200 costs £9.50.

The Milton are probably the bigger expense. These are £4.33 for 28. Each one does 5 litres, so again I need 12 for 60 litres, twice a year, = 24 a year.

[NBK2000]

I stock a variety of water, I like the handiness of 500ml bottles. The ones from Costco used to be ideal with the screw cap. But they changed that awhile ago.

They’re a different shape, made from thinner material and don’t stack as well.

So, who in your opinion, sells the best 500ml water bottles?

My next best choice is the 12 pack from Aldi, but x2 12 packs from
Aldi is more expensive than 40 bottles from Costco.

What say you?

[jennyjj01]

I bought a small supply of Oasis tabs for a survival kit a couple of years ago and found them convenient but expensive. Have you considered iodine in a dropper? I don't want to sound like a slavish Cody Lundin follower and I don't have hands-on with this method... but I bet it would be cheaper.

I have 100 x 33mg tablets I bought in 2022 for £3.90, expiry July 2027. These steralise 4-5 litres each. I need 12 tablets for 60 litres, twice a year, so I'll use about half of them by the expiry date.
They are on ebay for £5.99 now, expiry 2029.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203218754320 ... 54RCWJ8V7F

So in 2027 I should buy about twice as many, so I have enough to use, plus spare. 200 costs £9.50.

The Milton are probably the bigger expense. These are £4.33 for 28. Each one does 5 litres, so again I need 12 for 60 litres, twice a year, = 24 a year.

Check out Tesco's sterilising tablets. 56 for £1.65 Great value.
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/p ... /302169753

They are what I use for beer and wine sterilising bottles etc. Not designed to be imbibed with the water.

[Frnc]

I bought a small supply of Oasis tabs for a survival kit a couple of years ago and found them convenient but expensive. Have you considered iodine in a dropper? I don't want to sound like a slavish Cody Lundin follower and I don't have hands-on with this method... but I bet it would be cheaper.

I have 100 x 33mg tablets I bought in 2022 for £3.90, expiry July 2027. These steralise 4-5 litres each. I need 12 tablets for 60 litres, twice a year, so I'll use about half of them by the expiry date.
They are on ebay for £5.99 now, expiry 2029.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203218754320 ... 54RCWJ8V7F

So in 2027 I should buy about twice as many, so I have enough to use, plus spare. 200 costs £9.50.

The Milton are probably the bigger expense. These are £4.33 for 28. Each one does 5 litres, so again I need 12 for 60 litres, twice a year, = 24 a year.

Check out Tesco's sterilising tablets. 56 for £1.65 Great value.
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/p ... /302169753

They are what I use for beer and wine sterilising bottles etc. Not designed to be imbibed with the water.

Not bad, but they steralise 2.3 litres, so you need 4 and bit, say 4.5, for a 10 litre container. Milton do 5l, so it's a simple 2 x 5. Tescos do work out a bit cheaper.

[GillyBee]

I keep baby sterilisation tablets for water purification. This is taken from a slightly older Milton information sheet I keep. Most baby sterilisation tabs are the same chemicals. (Triclosene sodioum) The difference is that you are using them in a MUCH more dilute for than if you are sterilising baby bottles.

The leaflet states:

The Milton Sterilising Tablets are effective on germs that can be harmful to babies. The Milton Method of sterilising is simple to use: all items can be sterilised in 15 minutes with no need to rinse:
• Baby bottles, breast pump parts & baby accessories sterilisation
• Fruit & vegetable disinfection
• Home hygiene
• Water purification and bathing
DIRECTIONS FOR USE:
To sterilise baby bottles, breastpump parts & baby accessories
1. Wash all accessories in warm soapy water and rinse with clean cold water.
2. Add 1 Milton tablet in 5 litres of clean cold water.
3. Add items to the solution. Remove after 15 minutes or leave until needed. No need to rinse. Renew the solution every 24 hours.
Fruits & vegetable disinfection:
1. Wash and rinse fruit and vegetables in clean cold water.
2. Add 1 Milton tablet in 10 litres of clean cold water.
3. Immerse the fruit & vegetables for 15 minutes. Remove any air bubbles.
4. Rinse with drinking water. Shake off excess liquid and transfer to a clean dry tray. Eat within 24 hours.
Floors and surfaces disinfection:
To disinfect surfaces, use 3 Milton Tablets in 5 litres of clear cold water. Ideal for table tops, work surfaces, fridges, bins, chopping boards, stained cups or breakers.
Water purification and bathing:
Use 1 Milton tablet in 100 litres of clear water. Leave for 30 minutes before drinking or bathing. If the water is dirty looking, first filter with a cloth and use 2 tablets per 100 litres of water. Drink water within 24 hours.
COMPOSITION:
Active ingredient: Troclosene sodium (CAS 2893-78-9) : 19,5% m/m.

[jennyjj01]

Water purification and bathing:
Use 1 Milton tablet in 100 litres of clear water. Leave for 30 minutes before drinking or bathing. If the water is dirty looking, first filter with a cloth and use 2 tablets per 100 litres of water. Drink water within 24 hours.
COMPOSITION:
Active ingredient: Troclosene sodium (CAS 2893-78-9) : 19,5% m/m.

That's gold dust as I never really considered using them for purification and drinking.
The "drink 100L within 24 hours" might be an issue with my bladder

The Tesco ones seem to be half the size of real milton, but it looks like the same ingredient (Troclosene sodium)
Milton website says "Same active ingredient as the one used to make water drinkable. "

It looks like there are very many products in stores and on amazon that are just different package and tablet sizes and vastly different prices/g

I think we can agree that 1 Milton tablet or 2 Tesco tablets to purify 100L of water are both remarkably cheap ways of making 'clear' water potable. I feel confident that if Tesco & Milton recommend using and not even post rinsing for baby products, that it's pretty safe stuff.

We should surely all do our own research and maths when working out the dosage and suitability. Maybe time for a post that works through the VFM and pros and cons of the various options?