4x4 on a budget

[dch]

the fact is if you want a 4x4 so you have a vehical to get you where you need to go regardles of weather or changes in surface, you need to (and i'm sure some have already done this) learn to drive the vehical and practice, i bet there are at least a couple of people who have seen a 4x4, and i include the bmw x5 school run types as they have very advanced traction controls working sometimes automaticly, i bet we have all seen that type of vehical stuck and an old 4x4 being driven by a guy or girl who knows how to use it romp on through, get a lesson even if its off a 4x4 fan who drives a conpleatly different type of vehical, it will transform the vehical.

[spog]

hi

my first choice would be a diesel land rover, second toyota, third susuki sj, making sure there all over ten to fifteen years old as i would be trying avoid ellectric problems i would allso avoid turbos.
Old diesels can be run without the use of a battery but you will need one to start it and maybe stop it.
In a survival situation on an old diesel engine you can remove all the electronic sensors and if you know what your doing the engine will run, if you are seriously considering a 4*4 for a prepping its worth researching how you would do this. Avoid any diesel engine were the governor is dependent on electrics.

If it were me i would have an old land rover toyota or suxuki as a back up and a newer 4*4 for general use....................

[counsellor]

I can only offer my own experience and views. I run a Mitsubishi and it does everything I ask of it and before that a Toyota . Only issue is that it’s limited space in the back.

However I drive Landrover 110 at work and it’s not great for long on-road trips v the mity which handles better and is faster. But on the farm the Landrover wins hands down

The Nissan pick up, found it hard on the wet grass ( tyre issue I think ) or just my bad driving but had better space for kit in the back & load carrying
My suggestion is try some out, see how you get on and go for the one that suits you and what you do best
If the Landrover TD Disco where made by the Japs, Germans or anyone else then I would go for one

[southernPrepper]

Land Rover's Discovery is let down badly by it's tendency to rust. Every one that I've seen older than about 2000 is riddled around the rear floor pan and inner wings. The engines (200TDi & 300TDi) are generally fine though and carry on running respite all sorts of minor gripes. Everything Land Rover over 10 years old will seem positively agricultural compared to a Mitsibushi or Toyota however LRs are very cheap and easy to repair which is why they hold their value. Mitzis quickly reach the stage where a thorough service costs more than the car is actually worth

Off road a standard LR is good but could be better. Decent mud tyres make a massive difference but it still lacks front & rear diff locks whch you might find as standard on other makes. Adequate limited slip diffs are not that expensive and should get you out of most trouble but the single best adaption to any off-road vehicle is to fit a proper winch.



Running a LR you can expect around 30mpg for a diesel and low-20s for a petrol (less for an older 2.25).
DIY servicing is easy and will cost about £10 for parts plus oil & grease.

Fitted with a snorkel the diesel variants laugh in the face of flood water unless the vehicle physically floats away



Surprising storage on a basic LR is rubbish. Although there is masses of room there are very few cubby holes. People often fit metal dog guard meshes behind the front seats which not only keeps Fido at bay but also allows for stuff to be packed up against it.

Lastly, LR bodies are made from aluminium. Strong enough for a low speed tip over.



But not very good for anything high speed.



Probably best to fit a roll cage if you expect to test it's abilities.

[TimeisRunningOut]

Land Rover's Discovery is let down badly by it's tendency to rust. Every one that I've seen older than about 2000 is riddled around the rear floor pan and inner wings. The engines (200TDi & 300TDi) are generally fine though and carry on running respite all sorts of minor gripes. Everything Land Rover over 10 years old will seem positively agricultural compared to a Mitsibushi or Toyota however LRs are very cheap and easy to repair which is why they hold their value. Mitzis quickly reach the stage where a thorough service costs more than the car is actually worth

Off road a standard LR is good but could be better. Decent mud tyres make a massive difference but it still lacks front & rear diff locks whch you might find as standard on other makes. Adequate limited slip diffs are not that expensive and should get you out of most trouble but the single best adaption to any off-road vehicle is to fit a proper winch.



Running a LR you can expect around 30mpg for a diesel and low-20s for a petrol (less for an older 2.25).
DIY servicing is easy and will cost about £10 for parts plus oil & grease.

Fitted with a snorkel the diesel variants laugh in the face of flood water unless the vehicle physically floats away



Surprising storage on a basic LR is rubbish. Although there is masses of room there are very few cubby holes. People often fit metal dog guard meshes behind the front seats which not only keeps Fido at bay but also allows for stuff to be packed up against it.

Lastly, LR bodies are made from aluminium. Strong enough for a low speed tip over.



But not very good for anything high speed.



Probably best to fit a roll cage if you expect to test it's abilities.

Hahahah quality, I enjoyed watching that

How much do one of these things go for?

[jansman]

My Brother works in the motor trade.The joke in the trade is:"Why do they call it a Discovery?"
Answer:"because it takes you a fortnight after buying it to Discover what a piece of crap it is!"

AND two customers of mine couldn't get rid of em fast enough.

[bulldogeagle]

My Brother works in the motor trade.The joke in the trade is:"Why do they call it a Discovery?"
Answer:"because it takes you a fortnight after buying it to Discover what a piece of crap it is!"

AND two customers of mine couldn't get rid of em fast enough.

[CardiffGuy]

Once the dust has settled and after a few months, Im going to look at a lwb pajero - MK2 i think.

Relatively cheap, from what I have heard, if maintained quite reliable as well.

CardiffGuy

[metatron]

Suzuki Vitara are well made and dirt cheap, you see loads of them used on offroad days. Parts are easy to get and its easy to work on. Ethanal is fairly cheap to make if you source your sugars well.

[bulldogeagle]

if you had anything bigger than a Suzuki Jimny you wouldn't get it down any of the lanes around here, i have just driven my Berlingo around Dartmoor near Chagford and had a job trying to pass stuff coming the other way, anything larger than that(its only a 1400) and you'd be stuffed(literally) into a granite wall!