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pietka

Drain clamps

Post by pietka »

Right i'm not 100% this is in the right place! But imagine there heavy heavy rain! and the drains can't handle the flow! OR TSHTF in the way that theres no power, or fresh water! Either way there is gonna be a big problem with drains! Either way some S that has HTF might end up in you toilets and sinks! I found up the shed a couple of drain clamps! they have 2 large washers sandwiching a rubber doughnut! with a huge wingnut on one side! so I figured if you're bugging in or just get caught out that they might make things a bit more plesant and hyginic way to seal yourself off from the drainage/waste system!

I'd be thankful for your thoughts and views on how effective this may be?
Ian

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Post by Ian »

Most useful.

Some points:
Sizing is critical, there are many sizes and the fit must be good.
Tie a piece of decent rope to them whilst in use, should they come loose and wash down another drain they are beasts to get out.
Try them before you need to use them just to make sure.
Work out carefully where they go, it is easy to put them in the wrong place with dire results!
Use them early in the game or you may find you are up to your armpits in sewage trying to fit them.

If you expect a problem there are permanent valves available, which fit into the foul drain between the house and the sewer. Easy to install and quick to operate.
preppingsu

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Post by preppingsu »

Where would you get something like this from?
Thank You.
the-gnole

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Post by the-gnole »

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Drain test plugs are very good for sealing off the drains, just make sure you get the right ones, there are likely to be a few inside the manhole.

So find the man holes around your property and lift the lids, then go in the house and flush the loo/loos, but do them one at a time if more than one, then see which manhole it runs through before it leaves the property (providing you are connected to the main sewer system) and plug the "OUT" side of the manhole, but tie a good length of strong cord or wire to the butterfly nut so it can be pulled out if water gets in the manhole.

If you are doing this make sure you disable the water outlets in the house and all waste will need to go into a waste pit in the garden.

If you have a septic tank then you will have many many years of use before it fills, so keep using it and never put any bleach products in the waste system.

http://www.toolbank.com/p/C10398/BAI1963

http://www.screwfix.com/p/bailey-steel- ... 00mm/62513
the-gnole

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Post by the-gnole »

And you could get the inflatable ones as well

http://www.horobin.co.uk/products.asp?categoryid=2

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preppingsu

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Post by preppingsu »

the-gnole wrote: and plug the "OUT" side of the manhole,
This will sound like a really DOH question, if I'm looking at my manhole cover, house is on the right so flushing will come from the right and then continue left into the main system, do I use a drain block on the left?
the-gnole

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Post by the-gnole »

Yes Sue, block the pipe that the water leaves by rather than the one it enters through, you might have several "ins", but usually only the one "out"
Ian

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Post by Ian »

Take care. My manhole has four pipes, two from the house, one out, and one in from the other houses up the street. If I blocked the out pipe everything from up the hill would end up in my garden.

I really would only block the pipes from my toilets where they enter the manhole.
the-gnole

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Post by the-gnole »

Ian wrote:Take care. My manhole has four pipes, two from the house, one out, and one in from the other houses up the street. If I blocked the out pipe everything from up the hill would end up in my garden.

I really would only block the pipes from my toilets where they enter the manhole.
Good thinking Ian, could be bad news though if it all backed up into your garden.

Bit like the chap who built flood defences around his detatched house and smirked as the neighbours got flooded, until it backed up the drains and filled his from the inside to out.

I have a small manhole in my back garden that goes from house to main run only, so would be OK blocking the outlet side.

Guess the OPs idea would be OK so long as not on a shared line or if everyone was in agreement.
Ian

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Post by Ian »

The problem is how people unfamiliar with sewerage would know what not to plug. Perhaps if you are unsure, a quick word with someone who knows would help.

Simple non-return valves are available but have a history of getting fouled and not sealing too well when needed unless they are regularly maintained. The more reliable one's are £650 or so and only really justified if there is a known problem.

I am intrigued by a simple retro fit valve on the market, bit expensive though:
http://www.watertightinternational.com/