Hi guys and girls, I may have a SHTF scenario next year and need to keep track of my kids. I have my girls (10,12,14) full-time and I am a full time single Dad. A few years ago a family member on their Mother's side (Husband of their 1/2 Sister) abducted and raped my then 8 year old, now 14. He is due out of clink Feb next year. He has made it known that he is not happy at getting caught,etc. so I fear he will come back into the area as his probation office is not very far from here (about 10 mins in a car). Is there any sort of bracelet,etc that gives out an encrypted signal with a location that I can check on my PC using a map giving location, something similar to phone tracking technology with its own unique ID code which I would have. The reason I don't want to use the phone tracker is that, that will probably be the first thing tossed away so I am looking for something less obvious that can be worn and also not break school uniform rules as the kids have to get 2 buses home from school (7 miles away) and also go through the local large town where there will be a fair chance of bumping him to him or him spotting them. When he got arrested and after a Police Forensic Team had gone through his PC they found references and searches for Disused Caravan sites, airfields, abandoned buildings and caves. So I can only infer he wasn't going to make it easy to find her or her body. The Multi Agency people (MAPPA) say that he will be under supervision, but I don't trust them as they are taking a hit because of the cuts, so I want to do some stuff for myself. I already have a full personal folder for each of my girls with DNA samples, Fingerprints, photos,etc. I have gone the whole CSI on this. I can't even move as if Probation put him somewhere else I may move into that area without knowing as they won't tell me as apparently he has more rights as an ex-con and registered Sex Offender than us as a family.
Any help appreciated.
Tracking kids
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CardiffGuy
Re: Tracking kids
Cyclops,
First and foremost, Im not a parent (yet) so cannot imagine the experience you have personally gone through but as a full time single dad, I commend you for stepping up.
This is something that is at the forefront of my mind for when I have children and IIRC they make products for tracking people with Alzheimers and Autism(both young and old).
I've got something saved on my favourites somewhere, I'll have a dig out when I return from work this evening to see if I can be of assistance.
I'm sure that other people will chip in(no pun intended) and will have some information to share.
CardiffGuy
First and foremost, Im not a parent (yet) so cannot imagine the experience you have personally gone through but as a full time single dad, I commend you for stepping up.
This is something that is at the forefront of my mind for when I have children and IIRC they make products for tracking people with Alzheimers and Autism(both young and old).
I've got something saved on my favourites somewhere, I'll have a dig out when I return from work this evening to see if I can be of assistance.
I'm sure that other people will chip in(no pun intended) and will have some information to share.
CardiffGuy
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preppingsu
Re: Tracking kids
My thoughts are with you at this stressful time cyclops. As CardiffGuy said there are things out there - I'll have a look but hopefully CardiffGuy will be able to find his link.
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I'm sorry you're in such a terrible situation, have a look at this link, it gives details about personal locator beacons. I'm afraid they are all pretty bulky.
http://www.gps-practice-and-fun.com/gps-locators.html
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http://www.gps-practice-and-fun.com/gps-locators.html
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Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain~anon
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KalPrep
Re: Tracking kids
As a father with a baby daughter my thoughts are most definitely with you and yours.
It wasn't clear in your post so apologies if you have this covered, but if he appears to present an ongoing risk, is there not a legal route to pursue preventing him being located near you and your girls?
Failing that, mucho respect for stepping up. There are a number of technologies out there, as a bit of a geek, I will do some digging around. I would suggest if possible, looking at multiple layers of security here. Use the phone type tracking stuff initially as an easy, cheap way of regularly confirming location and ability to contact etc. sounds daft, but the default location stuff in iPhones/iPads is actually quite good.
Look at the stuff you are considering as a second line of defence, something not noticeably a tracking device and something which might be hard to locate.
Thirdly, have the girls got an EDC? Suggest putting together something that includes a whistle, attack alarm, a mini torch or a bright LED locator on it? A very personal thing and something you need to put some thought into, is also the inclusion of something like a tactical defense pen..
http://www.p-buy.com/index.php?route=pr ... rrency=GBP
Shouldn't look out of place on a key ring, isn't a blade and wouldn't cause any issue with authorities.
Even though you probably do this already, try and make look out for each other, not going to potentially threat laden areas, and general awareness part of the everyday routine, try not to make it something different they will do if this person is around. When something is just something to do at a particular time it is easy to forget, make it part of normal day to day activity and it is second nature and more effective.
I will see what is out there tech wise as there are probably others on here who would be interested.
It wasn't clear in your post so apologies if you have this covered, but if he appears to present an ongoing risk, is there not a legal route to pursue preventing him being located near you and your girls?
Failing that, mucho respect for stepping up. There are a number of technologies out there, as a bit of a geek, I will do some digging around. I would suggest if possible, looking at multiple layers of security here. Use the phone type tracking stuff initially as an easy, cheap way of regularly confirming location and ability to contact etc. sounds daft, but the default location stuff in iPhones/iPads is actually quite good.
Look at the stuff you are considering as a second line of defence, something not noticeably a tracking device and something which might be hard to locate.
Thirdly, have the girls got an EDC? Suggest putting together something that includes a whistle, attack alarm, a mini torch or a bright LED locator on it? A very personal thing and something you need to put some thought into, is also the inclusion of something like a tactical defense pen..
http://www.p-buy.com/index.php?route=pr ... rrency=GBP
Shouldn't look out of place on a key ring, isn't a blade and wouldn't cause any issue with authorities.
Even though you probably do this already, try and make look out for each other, not going to potentially threat laden areas, and general awareness part of the everyday routine, try not to make it something different they will do if this person is around. When something is just something to do at a particular time it is easy to forget, make it part of normal day to day activity and it is second nature and more effective.
I will see what is out there tech wise as there are probably others on here who would be interested.
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bulldogeagle
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i'm not a father, so i can only guess what your going through, but can i ask the obvious question-is it possible for you to move home?? getting away from the problem would seem to be the logical thing to do, not always possible i know in these lean economic times, but if it was me that would be the first thing i would think off.
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skippy
Re: Tracking kids
Hell of a situation Cyclops ... I hope you and yours remain safe and wellcyclops wrote:Hi guys and girls, I may have a SHTF scenario next year and need to keep track of my kids..
Any help appreciated.
found these through a google search so cant review for you :
http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalo ... JwBEPMCMAI#
Or this :
http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/child-locator.html
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maxilaura
Re: Tracking kids
Feel for you mate, horrific situation to be experiencing.
Can the kids not go to an after school activity / club every day so that they aren't moving around town on their own?
I remember when I was catching buses on my own home from school - there was a chap who would follow us and feel himself up in front of us - wasn't nice.
Another thing, which my dad taught me, was to take a different route home every day, so that nobody knew my exact movements day in to day out, but I would have to tell the parents in the morning which route I was going to use that day. This actually helped when I was in my 20s and driving home from the gym, I was followed home a couple of times (in South Africa hijacking is rife) so I would alternate my route home.
Other than that, maybe looking into transferring to another part of the country just to get away from him? A drastic step, but if you are right in thinking he is out for revenge - I would ensure I moved my daughter well away from the situation, even if it meant me selling up and finding another job elsewhere - but can understand that for some people this would not be an option.
My thoughts are with you.
Maxilaura
Can the kids not go to an after school activity / club every day so that they aren't moving around town on their own?
I remember when I was catching buses on my own home from school - there was a chap who would follow us and feel himself up in front of us - wasn't nice.
Another thing, which my dad taught me, was to take a different route home every day, so that nobody knew my exact movements day in to day out, but I would have to tell the parents in the morning which route I was going to use that day. This actually helped when I was in my 20s and driving home from the gym, I was followed home a couple of times (in South Africa hijacking is rife) so I would alternate my route home.
Other than that, maybe looking into transferring to another part of the country just to get away from him? A drastic step, but if you are right in thinking he is out for revenge - I would ensure I moved my daughter well away from the situation, even if it meant me selling up and finding another job elsewhere - but can understand that for some people this would not be an option.
My thoughts are with you.
Maxilaura
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bulldogeagle
Re: Tracking kids
OH says :" if he was/is after young girls its the youngest who is at risk NOW, at 14 girls these days are young women! can you take an injunction out on him?" what about your local police force, can they keep an eye on his movements?
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cyclops
Re: Tracking kids
Hi again,
Thanks for all the responses and I will also be looking at the GPS gear mentioned. I have been teaching my girls surveillance and counter surveillance techniques (changing routes, varying times,etc.) also to check around them by looking at the reflection in shop windows,etc. as I was taught by the Forces and others. Moving isn't an option at this time as I have been on the waiting list for 2 years, but hit a brick wall of the officials saying they will not tell me where they move him to and theoretically we could move into the area they have put him and we wouldn't know. As they say he is to be treated as a free man at the end of his sentence and he has all the rights on his side apparently he has more rights under the law for the "Right to a Family life and privacy" than we do. So much for HR law when he took ours away. An injunction may be the way to go, but there is one central bus station which my kids go through 2 times a day and he may be there doing his shopping and other legal things. The Police are stretched and so are MAPPA, so I am not counting on them giving 24/7 coverage and I am going to cover the bases I can. If he comes near my kids and I catch him I will treat him with "maximum prejudice" and hold my hands up. I am out of my league here I am used to a Military background with clear rules of engagement, but civvy street rules are a whole different ball game and I have to protect my kids, but the law is an Ass
Thanks for all the responses and I will also be looking at the GPS gear mentioned. I have been teaching my girls surveillance and counter surveillance techniques (changing routes, varying times,etc.) also to check around them by looking at the reflection in shop windows,etc. as I was taught by the Forces and others. Moving isn't an option at this time as I have been on the waiting list for 2 years, but hit a brick wall of the officials saying they will not tell me where they move him to and theoretically we could move into the area they have put him and we wouldn't know. As they say he is to be treated as a free man at the end of his sentence and he has all the rights on his side apparently he has more rights under the law for the "Right to a Family life and privacy" than we do. So much for HR law when he took ours away. An injunction may be the way to go, but there is one central bus station which my kids go through 2 times a day and he may be there doing his shopping and other legal things. The Police are stretched and so are MAPPA, so I am not counting on them giving 24/7 coverage and I am going to cover the bases I can. If he comes near my kids and I catch him I will treat him with "maximum prejudice" and hold my hands up. I am out of my league here I am used to a Military background with clear rules of engagement, but civvy street rules are a whole different ball game and I have to protect my kids, but the law is an Ass