Extreme home defence

[tfish]

Obviously.. this is not for implimentation until there is no law.

I am thinking of ways of making my home harder to attack and gain entry. IV been burgaled this week even though I live in a upper flat. They gained access via the Felix roof windows. It seems they have a weakness she. Bounced on they pop open. Great.

I have sprayed the roof with silicone grease and I am running razor wire all around the area. I am also installing those rotating anti climb French tops onto special brackets to make it awkward to get onto the roof.

This got me thinking, how could you make your home the aggressor in any home attack. If it didn't have a dog I would definitely use stake/nail traps on mys back stairs.

I have heard about the Ira trick of sniping old style razor blades and then fixing them with no nails to a run of carpet gripper, then Attach this to roof angle. Painfully and some nice pools of DNA should be left next time.

My dad has mentioned rigging the window to the Electrics but there is no. Metal on a velux, could metal be added to the frame so then it can be electrified. Would this be a massive fire hazard or could it be managed.

This is all just theory by the way. Don't choke on your green tea guys.

[tigs]

rigging anything up to the electric with the intention of harming is illegal and would get you jailed for intent to harm or even kill !! not worth it , the new interpretation of the law says you can defend your property with reasonable force so no traps that will maim or kill

[tfish]

I don't think you read the first line of my post

[junmist]

I don't think you read the first line of my post

Thing is tfish this is a law abiding site so anything you are thinking of doing has to be with in the law and the rest you keep to your self You could always call in the police and get them to come round and do a check for you they will give you good ideas on how to bugler proof your home. One tip form long ago is to grow cacti on the window sill there are others but cann't think of them at this moment

[tfish]

What are you talking about? A lot of the stuff spoke about here is theory and "what happens if"

Are you implying everyone who states they plan to go live in hamsterly forest and live off the land are criminals because that act is illegal now?

Entertain if so!

[tfish]

I don't think you read the first line of my post

One tip form long ago is to grow cacti on the window sill there are others but cann't think of them at this moment

This is pure gold. Its a shame the people of London didn't do this before the riots.

Through the rubber bullets men but fall back if we hit the cactus lines!,!

[JamesMR]

In the event of a SHTF situation you don't want to make your house look like a fortress as this will only deter them for so long and make it obvious you're in there and have something worth fighting to get at.

If something happened, destroy the outside of your house / flat and make it look as though it has already been ransacked, throw rubbish everywhere, burn parts of the windows etc and just isolate yourself to one floor or room. Essentially camouflaging yourself and making it look as though there is no point in entering your property. In your case just stay in the one room, fit a super strong door, with bolts, chains and locks. One room is easier to defend than an entire house.

No matter what you do as far as spikes, grease, barbed or razor wire, electric fences etc this will only last so long. YOU need to be prepared physically and mentally to take people down without hesitating and you need to have the skills to back this up. When your life is on the line it's all you will have.

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In normal times then you seem very well prepared, the spinning spikes are excellent and I have found no way of getting over them. Have you seen the prika strips? While not impossible to get over when wearing thick gloves they do make it a lot harder, CCTV cameras act as a great deterrent etc

Do you have a diagram of your property? it's hard to suggest stuff without knowing exactly what it's like.

[Reservior]

In the event of a SHTF situation you don't want to make your house look like a fortress as this will only deter them for so long and make it obvious you're in there and have something worth fighting to get at.

If something happened, destroy the outside of your house / flat and make it look as though it has already been ransacked, throw rubbish everywhere, burn parts of the windows etc and just isolate yourself to one floor or room. Essentially camouflaging yourself and making it look as though there is no point in entering your property. In your case just stay in the one room, fit a super strong door, with bolts, chains and locks. One room is easier to defend than an entire house.

No matter what you do as far as spikes, grease, barbed or razor wire, electric fences etc this will only last so long. YOU need to be prepared physically and mentally to take people down without hesitating and you need to have the skills to back this up. When your life is on the line it's all you will have.

Strange post that one.

I agree with some of it. Vandalising your own house seems like sacrilege in today's world but using spray paint etc might be worthwhile, in different times. Likewise messing up your gardens with plastic bags/ bottles/crisp packets etc. I wouldn't advocate burning anything, even small parts of windows.

I certainly don't agree with limiting yourself to one room.

I wouldn't advocate messing about with the structure though

[JamesMR]

In the event of a SHTF situation you don't want to make your house look like a fortress as this will only deter them for so long and make it obvious you're in there and have something worth fighting to get at.

If something happened, destroy the outside of your house / flat and make it look as though it has already been ransacked, throw rubbish everywhere, burn parts of the windows etc and just isolate yourself to one floor or room. Essentially camouflaging yourself and making it look as though there is no point in entering your property. In your case just stay in the one room, fit a super strong door, with bolts, chains and locks. One room is easier to defend than an entire house.

No matter what you do as far as spikes, grease, barbed or razor wire, electric fences etc this will only last so long. YOU need to be prepared physically and mentally to take people down without hesitating and you need to have the skills to back this up. When your life is on the line it's all you will have.

Strange post that one.

I agree with some of it. Vandalising your own house seems like sacrilege in today's world but using spray paint etc might be worthwhile, in different times. Likewise messing up your gardens with plastic bags/ bottles/crisp packets etc. I wouldn't advocate burning anything, even small parts of windows.

I certainly don't agree with limiting yourself to one room.

I wouldn't advocate messing about with the structure though

In a city that has had sustained rioting, looting and general mayhem for months very few windows will be intact and if yours is it will stand out. Things will inevitably be on fire. A smaller area with one access point is easier to defend if you are alone or are small in numbers, think of the design of medieval castles, they forced attackers through narrow passages meaning it was harder for you to be swamped from multiple sides, what I was taught in FIBUA training anyway. A door isn't classed as the structure of a building is it? News to me

I got the wrong end of the stick anyway, seems the OP was talking about "peace" times (Then again he mentioned it was for implementation when there is no law, then goes on to mention recently being burgled, I'm confused lol)

[dreamcatcher]

You need multiple fall back locations within your home. This is a method deployed in military situations. For example secure your garden as much as possible. When the garden is breeched fall back to the next secured location, maybe the kitchen and so on. Your final fall back location or Keep will be the most heavily defended. You should always have a secure escape route from the Keep.
This all depends on how many people you are defending from, and how many defenders there are. Defending with 20 people against 2 is simple. Defending with 2 against 20 not so simple.