I've trawled a few topics on this site and found it all very interesting & useful.
I guess while I'm here, hoped I could ask for further references on subject no covered (than I can yet see) ?
Please don't see any of these questions as criticisms, I've been pushed to find much on any of them on a lot of sites.
I hope that my whirring mind's ramblings might bring interesting debate ?
Fundamentals really ... what am I prepping for ?
I guess some people are prepping for the financial collapse, others for war (nuclear/virus?), zombie apocalypse ?
Would be interesting to hear what threats are likely and how they affect each of our prepping activities.
How will it happen ?
Seems most people talk as if it all happens in an instant. One day everything is fine, the next is chaos.
I'm reckoning, in the case of economic collapse, it'll be a long drawn out process over months, years ... what's the changing situation going to be like ?
When do you decide 'this is the day' to bolt ?
Do you queue for 48 hours to get another loaf of bread from the supermarket and save your home stash, or decide the time could be better used ? Run too early and you're eating into your stash before you have to, run too late, and you could get caught up in the violence?
Good Samaritan ?
Seems a lot of people (no offense, but mostly Americans) have the solid idea that they have their stash, and if anyone comes near, it'll be bullet time.
But really, if a starving and cute child comes knocking at your door, would you really be able to turn them away ?
Could you sleep whilst they whimpered and cried outside of your door as they slowly died over a number of days ?
How would you manage that ? And if you let her in, would you then let her mother, father, grandma ?
Historical info ...
What really happens in a disaster, as opposed to what we 'think' would happen ?
I know that even the japan Tsunami probably doesn't come close to what a lot of us are prepping for, but from what I saw (on internet), people tended to help each other, rather then turn on each other.
People in the cities were faster to get medical aid than people in the suburbs.
What's the closest disaster to 'doomsday' anyone can thing of that might give us an idea of how things might unfold ?
.. pah ... well hows that for an intro ?
Look forward to any comments.views ..
Regards
S
Greetings ...
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preppingsu
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Hello and welcome to the forum.
You've asked many things to open up discussions but gave very little away about your own thoughts on the matter. I hope you will rectify this and share a little about your prepping journey.
Point 1/ this has been discussed many time on this forum. Here is one link to one of our more recent ones. To find more you will just have to trawl the site
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4666
Point 2/ who knows how it will happen. Many say it is happening now, the slow decline, not too obvious but the signs are there. Loss of jobs, food prices going up, fuel prices going up, wages not going up. I suppose it all depends on what you are prepping for; there will be different signs for different scenarios.
Point 3/ this is an unknown. Lets hope that it never comes to having to make that decision but all I know is I will do everything in my power to protect and insure my families ability to survive. I have yet to be pushed to the limit. This will be different for everyone.
Point 4/ the Great Depression , World War 2, Irish Potato Famine, Pompeii, personal unemployment - many things can be learnt from all of these situations.
It all depends on what you are personally prepping for and as you will find in this site it's not just about the Mayan calendar or Yellowstone erupting but about unemployment, Ill health, bad weather and the such.
What do you prep for and how?
You've asked many things to open up discussions but gave very little away about your own thoughts on the matter. I hope you will rectify this and share a little about your prepping journey.
Point 1/ this has been discussed many time on this forum. Here is one link to one of our more recent ones. To find more you will just have to trawl the site
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4666
Point 2/ who knows how it will happen. Many say it is happening now, the slow decline, not too obvious but the signs are there. Loss of jobs, food prices going up, fuel prices going up, wages not going up. I suppose it all depends on what you are prepping for; there will be different signs for different scenarios.
Point 3/ this is an unknown. Lets hope that it never comes to having to make that decision but all I know is I will do everything in my power to protect and insure my families ability to survive. I have yet to be pushed to the limit. This will be different for everyone.
Point 4/ the Great Depression , World War 2, Irish Potato Famine, Pompeii, personal unemployment - many things can be learnt from all of these situations.
It all depends on what you are personally prepping for and as you will find in this site it's not just about the Mayan calendar or Yellowstone erupting but about unemployment, Ill health, bad weather and the such.
What do you prep for and how?
Re: Greetings ...
hello and welcome simon interesting points all talked about on other thread from time to time , would be interested in your point of view on them
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Re: Greetings ...
Welcome and greetings from Northern Ontario, Canada.
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simonB
Re: Greetings ...
Many thanks for the welcomes, and special thanks to preppingSu.
I am sorry if my lack of giving away came across as 'wrong' or rude, it was not intended so, I promise.
More likely that I am still at the stage where I have not answered many of these question myself.
Maybe the easiest is 'what am I prepping for'.
Some of it is just an interest in self-sufficiency, pure and simple.
I've played with growing veggies, DIY-ing stuff instead of buying, a keen camper who likes the enrichment of independence ... but all as individual short/medium term projects.
Guess I've reached an age in life where I'd like to join all these pieces & experiences together.
Purely soul-enrichment fodder.
Yet there is a doom & gloom front, yes, I am concerned about the economy mostly.
An infrastructure that resembles a house of cards.
The realization that my whole life's eggs are in one basket, and that basket is getting swung about with way too little respect by people who's own eggs are safely tucked away elsewhere.
Early thoughts, but my gut, and looking at Greece/Spain, tells me that it could likely be a long drawn out affair.
Hence I'm not envisioning the 'instant' transition from 'today' into 'doomsday'.
The slow slide may bleed every last penny from us gradually, so my first priority has been minimising/eradicating my exposure to mortgage interest rates and suchlike.
Try to live as normal for as long as possible before resorting to stash.
I'm guessing (!) that the crunch will come for me when wages don't cover the costs.
Though I doubt it'll be as black and white as that in reality.
Next and current, is food & water.
Energy I still don't have a clear idea in my mind as to how I'm going to play.
Evacuation plans are on a paper by my bedside.
So early days for me.
Lots of scribbles that need to become a coherent plan.
The dilemma of helping people, vs turning people away, is a difficult one for me.
Maybe the one where I feel most insecure.
Can I live in (relative) comfort whilst others suffer all around ?
I don't have an answer.
In many way I should wake up, I am doing that already, 3rd world countries, homeless in London, children abused in care.
The difference is, that I cannot see them.
Oh how depressed and wretched does that thought make me !
I know I am capable of doing all the practical preparation, but there's an awful lot of moral issues to be resolved in looking after 'me' and sodding everyone else. Isn't that an attitude that's got us into this mess i the first place ?
Will the world become a mean and selfish place, full of preppers defending their lots with shotguns and barbed fences ?
I certainly hope people come together in crisis.
Some good signs of community based bonding in Spain & Greece, so there is hope yet.
K, I'll stop rambling ... feel free to knock some hard sense into me
I am sorry if my lack of giving away came across as 'wrong' or rude, it was not intended so, I promise.
More likely that I am still at the stage where I have not answered many of these question myself.
Maybe the easiest is 'what am I prepping for'.
Some of it is just an interest in self-sufficiency, pure and simple.
I've played with growing veggies, DIY-ing stuff instead of buying, a keen camper who likes the enrichment of independence ... but all as individual short/medium term projects.
Guess I've reached an age in life where I'd like to join all these pieces & experiences together.
Purely soul-enrichment fodder.
Yet there is a doom & gloom front, yes, I am concerned about the economy mostly.
An infrastructure that resembles a house of cards.
The realization that my whole life's eggs are in one basket, and that basket is getting swung about with way too little respect by people who's own eggs are safely tucked away elsewhere.
Early thoughts, but my gut, and looking at Greece/Spain, tells me that it could likely be a long drawn out affair.
Hence I'm not envisioning the 'instant' transition from 'today' into 'doomsday'.
The slow slide may bleed every last penny from us gradually, so my first priority has been minimising/eradicating my exposure to mortgage interest rates and suchlike.
Try to live as normal for as long as possible before resorting to stash.
I'm guessing (!) that the crunch will come for me when wages don't cover the costs.
Though I doubt it'll be as black and white as that in reality.
Next and current, is food & water.
Energy I still don't have a clear idea in my mind as to how I'm going to play.
Evacuation plans are on a paper by my bedside.
So early days for me.
Lots of scribbles that need to become a coherent plan.
The dilemma of helping people, vs turning people away, is a difficult one for me.
Maybe the one where I feel most insecure.
Can I live in (relative) comfort whilst others suffer all around ?
I don't have an answer.
In many way I should wake up, I am doing that already, 3rd world countries, homeless in London, children abused in care.
The difference is, that I cannot see them.
Oh how depressed and wretched does that thought make me !
I know I am capable of doing all the practical preparation, but there's an awful lot of moral issues to be resolved in looking after 'me' and sodding everyone else. Isn't that an attitude that's got us into this mess i the first place ?
Will the world become a mean and selfish place, full of preppers defending their lots with shotguns and barbed fences ?
I certainly hope people come together in crisis.
Some good signs of community based bonding in Spain & Greece, so there is hope yet.
K, I'll stop rambling ... feel free to knock some hard sense into me