I prep because it allows me not to go without when moneys tight. When I can I buy preps. I regularly use my preps, every thing from washing up liquid to calpol to tinned beans!
I have three kids, running out of medicine is just a no no! same applies to food.
Its also nice to know if TSHTF I have a head start, not just in the gear but knowledge. How many people in your street can make fire with a couple of sticks? Its tricky but I can do it!
I believe there wont be a necessary a quick sudden change but more of a gradual change which I thinks worse! A tin of Tesco value Tuna was 27p about 3 years ago its now 75P! same with petrol. I remember when it just went over the £1.00 a litre shock horror! now it £1.40 ish.
So as far as im concerned the SHTF is happening now!!!
What are we prepping for?
Re: What are we prepping for?
We live in a unsustainable world, there must be a balance, poor people/rich people no more, only prepared people will make it!
Re: What are we prepping for?
Thats good enough IMHOctrljay wrote:I prep because it allows me not to go without when moneys tight.
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pigeonsniper
Re: What are we prepping for?
Thanks, that one does seem like it's for grown ups.12mp82 wrote:You raise some interesting points, but I won't bother going through them as I have been reading the same points over and over again for many years now.
The deficit is being reduced bit by bit, do you remember the little note left for the current government by the out going one?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010 ... -successor
Maybe if we all do our bit then we won't end up like the rest Europe, But I doubt it will happen because the culture we seem to have bred into some people today.The former chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne, has reignited criticism of Labour's stewardship of the economy with a note for his successor which said "there's no money left".
Byrne's note was discovered by David Laws, the Liberal Democrat MP who was appointed by the coalition government to succeed Byrne as No 2 at the Treasury.
It is a convention for outgoing ministers to leave a note for their successors with advice on how to settle into the job. But Byrne's note – which he later said was intended as a private joke – drew attention to Labour's economic record when it was revealed by Laws at a press conference today.
Laws told reporters: "When I arrived at my desk on the very first day as chief secretary, I found a letter from the previous chief secretary to give me some advice, I assumed, on how I conduct myself over the months ahead.
"Unfortunately, when I opened it, it was a one-sentence letter which simply said: 'Dear chief secretary, I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left,' which was honest but slightly less helpful advice than I had been expecting."
So, back to preppingUK Preppers style
Which is not the place for so many of this type of discussion, but you could try http://forum.survivaluk.net/ where I am sure you will be more than welcome
Re: What are we prepping for?
pigeonsniper wrote:Thanks, that one does seem like it's for grown ups.12mp82 wrote:You raise some interesting points, but I won't bother going through them as I have been reading the same points over and over again for many years now.
The deficit is being reduced bit by bit, do you remember the little note left for the current government by the out going one?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010 ... -successor
Maybe if we all do our bit then we won't end up like the rest Europe, But I doubt it will happen because the culture we seem to have bred into some people today.The former chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne, has reignited criticism of Labour's stewardship of the economy with a note for his successor which said "there's no money left".
Byrne's note was discovered by David Laws, the Liberal Democrat MP who was appointed by the coalition government to succeed Byrne as No 2 at the Treasury.
It is a convention for outgoing ministers to leave a note for their successors with advice on how to settle into the job. But Byrne's note – which he later said was intended as a private joke – drew attention to Labour's economic record when it was revealed by Laws at a press conference today.
Laws told reporters: "When I arrived at my desk on the very first day as chief secretary, I found a letter from the previous chief secretary to give me some advice, I assumed, on how I conduct myself over the months ahead.
"Unfortunately, when I opened it, it was a one-sentence letter which simply said: 'Dear chief secretary, I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left,' which was honest but slightly less helpful advice than I had been expecting."
So, back to prepping
Which is not the place for so many of this type of discussion, but you could try http://forum.survivaluk.net/ where I am sure you will be more than welcome
Bye then - banned for inciteful posts
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Re: What are we prepping for?
Future Proofing....Me tooctrljay wrote:I prep because it allows me not to go without when moneys tight. When I can I buy preps. I regularly use my preps, every thing from washing up liquid to calpol to tinned beans!
I have three kids, running out of medicine is just a no no! same applies to food.
Its also nice to know if TSHTF I have a head start, not just in the gear but knowledge. How many people in your street can make fire with a couple of sticks? Its tricky but I can do it!
I believe there wont be a necessary a quick sudden change but more of a gradual change which I thinks worse! A tin of Tesco value Tuna was 27p about 3 years ago its now 75P! same with petrol. I remember when it just went over the £1.00 a litre shock horror! now it £1.40 ish.
So as far as im concerned the SHTF is happening now!!!
Zombies such as serious illness, unemployment or local/personal disaster(Fire,Flood or Extreme Weather)..... All these happen to people every day, why should I think that I'm different
Mohawk bikers in leather chaps with crossbows strapped to their arms aren't on the radar
jennyjj01 wrote:"I'm not in the least bit worried because I'm prepared: Are you?"
"All Things Strive" Gd Tak 'GarLondonpreppy wrote: At its core all prepping is, is making sure you're not down to your last sheet of loo roll when you really need a poo.
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LivingDeadGirl
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My Partner and I are prepping for a total economic breakdown in this country. We would much rather be prepared and it not happen than find ourselves in trouble if it does.
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My prepping develops all the time. Like most, I want to try and cover the likelihoods rather than the outlandish (IMHO.) However, what I thought was really unlikely is what many are experiencing right now ... No power and not likely to be fully reconnected until the latter side of the week. People without heat, food rotting in failing freezers, no hot water and no idea when it will come back on. Spoke to the OH about a generator for back up but dismissed this before because we live in a new town and thought it's never going to come to that and besides if the power goes off we still have heating though the combi... Totally forgot about the pump it uses to push the water through the system and needs electricity to do so. So our current prep development is to save up for a generator that will at least power the pump and a few devices.
Experience is really what is guiding me for prepping, my own and others I know or have read about on here. After spending last year buying as much ammo for my air rifles as possible so I could hunt if the shops ran out of food or there was a total breakdown of society I have come to realise that despite being an extreme (extremely extreme IMO) possibility, it is far less likely than me being out of work; the weather coming in an stopping the food logistic networks for a week or more; the power going down for a week or more; needing urgent first aid; being stuck in my car over night due to weather or simply having an unexpected and urgent expenditure that will empty the bank account until next pay. These are things that I or my friends have actually experienced and therefore is what I prep for.
I do feel for those abroad who have experienced severe situations including social unrest but cannot push myself to believe it is more and more likely to be experienced here,I could be wrong but I can't get myself into that mindset and therefore really prep for what is the most likely issues I will experience.
Experience is really what is guiding me for prepping, my own and others I know or have read about on here. After spending last year buying as much ammo for my air rifles as possible so I could hunt if the shops ran out of food or there was a total breakdown of society I have come to realise that despite being an extreme (extremely extreme IMO) possibility, it is far less likely than me being out of work; the weather coming in an stopping the food logistic networks for a week or more; the power going down for a week or more; needing urgent first aid; being stuck in my car over night due to weather or simply having an unexpected and urgent expenditure that will empty the bank account until next pay. These are things that I or my friends have actually experienced and therefore is what I prep for.
I do feel for those abroad who have experienced severe situations including social unrest but cannot push myself to believe it is more and more likely to be experienced here,I could be wrong but I can't get myself into that mindset and therefore really prep for what is the most likely issues I will experience.
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I'm prepping for the more probable (power failure, job loss, prolonged ill health, inflation), but I'm also keeping half a mind on the less likely scenarios (complete economic breakdown, civil war, terrorism...).
Although I am thinking about how I would deal with certain issues if the less likely scenarios occurred, I do have to keep reigning in my imagination at times and focus on what is most important for the more likely scenarios!
Stocking up on food, hygiene products, candles and fuel, little by little is the way I'm going at the moment.
When I first read about prepping I started planning a BOB with the focus being on surviving in the wild (following my bushcraft interest and influenced by all the American sites). I've since come to realise that that is not only an unhelpful BOB for most situations, but also probably a very last a resort in the UK.
Now my BOB is more practical, thinking along the lines of having to retreat to a hotel or my parents'. I store all my camping gear in my large rucksack anyway, so if it really DID come to having to bug out to the wild (which I'd avoid as much as possible) then at least I could throw some food and water in, grab it and go.
Although I am thinking about how I would deal with certain issues if the less likely scenarios occurred, I do have to keep reigning in my imagination at times and focus on what is most important for the more likely scenarios!
Stocking up on food, hygiene products, candles and fuel, little by little is the way I'm going at the moment.
When I first read about prepping I started planning a BOB with the focus being on surviving in the wild (following my bushcraft interest and influenced by all the American sites). I've since come to realise that that is not only an unhelpful BOB for most situations, but also probably a very last a resort in the UK.
Now my BOB is more practical, thinking along the lines of having to retreat to a hotel or my parents'. I store all my camping gear in my large rucksack anyway, so if it really DID come to having to bug out to the wild (which I'd avoid as much as possible) then at least I could throw some food and water in, grab it and go.
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Also take into account that the American ideas, not those associated with global economic decline, are about preparing for disasters, which due to the American climate happen regularly, we are probably not much different if you consider a disaster as being out of work, as some Americans do. The popular and alternative media suggest that "prepping" is just for end times, solar EMP, pandemics and the like, but not all the "prepping" videos out there on youtube are about the best camouflage sheath knives or AK 47 rifles. Much of it is just about power outages and what to do if there is an issue with utilities, water and the like.
Our weather is getting more extreme and there are possible issues with cost and supply of energy / food and the like.
Whatever "prepping" is considered to be this week, its going to become more popular.
Our weather is getting more extreme and there are possible issues with cost and supply of energy / food and the like.
Whatever "prepping" is considered to be this week, its going to become more popular.
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riversong
Re: What are we prepping for?
Came into this thread rather late so here's my 2p worth.
I'm prepping for Power/Water/Pandemic.
Noted that much US based prepping is relating to 'disaster' mode
because I guess that they have a lot of disasters over there e.g. Katrina
In the UK, the four biggest challenges to UK stability are in the following order:
1. Pandemic Flu
2. Coastal Flooding
3. Terrorist Attack
4. Severe effusive (gas-rich) volcanic eruptions abroad
Interestingly enough "Space weather" also makes an appearance. All this data is from the Cabinet Office briefing Paper National Register.
There's all kinds of scenarios and I didn't buy into the 'zombie' picture a la "Walking Dead" until someone on this thread suggested that 'zombie' was shorthand.
More likely is the hoodie and other so-called "underclass".
If Pandemic takes hold then around 30-50% will be off work with substantial deaths. Probably several million. But if people are not working, then lorry drivers are off, and nothing gets delivered to Tesco's.
Ergo 72 hours or Nine Meals away from looting. I do not believe that Laura Norder will be maintained for a number of reasons. We can see what happened in the London riots recently. The Met had a VERY hard job in putting it down and only managed with help from other forces. (I believe we were close to having the army called out but I have no proof).
The problem occurs when there are multiple outbreaks of looting. You cannot call upon other forces because they are needed in their own area. I live in a rural area but with fast access to main roads. 5 miles away we have a town that is very 'down at heel'. If we take a look at the number of police officers covering a huge area around here at night, we are talking about 6 - 8.
Mmmm --- next
Well I buy food. I'm not yet at the mountain house but I'm working on a bit-by-bit storage. Targets at the moment are three months, six months, one year and three years.
At present I'm around 1 month storage and each time I go into the shops, I try to get an additional 3 days to 1 week food. These at the moment are cans which present another problem.
The old saying is "Store what you eat and eat what you store". This doesn't work for me. I HATE eating out of cans and prefer no frozen. Most of our food is fresh at the moment.
If people are not working then electricity could go which after a time has a knock on effect on sewage/water.
Water - I have a single travellers flask with filter for when I'm out. In addition I've got a kind of charcoal filter combined with tablets which should see some time. I like the look of the Berkefield units but I've just invested in 2 x filter pumping devices. One for personal use and one for community use.
Cooking - Camping Gaz followed by Rocket Stove with Kelly Kettle.
Heating -- Thermal Underwear
Finally there is another kind of preparation that is not a disaster kind but where you need to leave your home for maybe a relatives or someone. You need to leave in an hour .
Suggest you might look at http://www.onebag.com/ . This was a site for travellers to put as much as possible in a single carry on bag. Grab their PDF - It makes an interesting BOB without the survivalist framework. Useful for when you've got to escape to the Mother-in-law or whatever.
Thats it for now sweeties.
I'm prepping for Power/Water/Pandemic.
Noted that much US based prepping is relating to 'disaster' mode
because I guess that they have a lot of disasters over there e.g. Katrina
In the UK, the four biggest challenges to UK stability are in the following order:
1. Pandemic Flu
2. Coastal Flooding
3. Terrorist Attack
4. Severe effusive (gas-rich) volcanic eruptions abroad
Interestingly enough "Space weather" also makes an appearance. All this data is from the Cabinet Office briefing Paper National Register.
There's all kinds of scenarios and I didn't buy into the 'zombie' picture a la "Walking Dead" until someone on this thread suggested that 'zombie' was shorthand.
More likely is the hoodie and other so-called "underclass".
If Pandemic takes hold then around 30-50% will be off work with substantial deaths. Probably several million. But if people are not working, then lorry drivers are off, and nothing gets delivered to Tesco's.
Ergo 72 hours or Nine Meals away from looting. I do not believe that Laura Norder will be maintained for a number of reasons. We can see what happened in the London riots recently. The Met had a VERY hard job in putting it down and only managed with help from other forces. (I believe we were close to having the army called out but I have no proof).
The problem occurs when there are multiple outbreaks of looting. You cannot call upon other forces because they are needed in their own area. I live in a rural area but with fast access to main roads. 5 miles away we have a town that is very 'down at heel'. If we take a look at the number of police officers covering a huge area around here at night, we are talking about 6 - 8.
Mmmm --- next
Well I buy food. I'm not yet at the mountain house but I'm working on a bit-by-bit storage. Targets at the moment are three months, six months, one year and three years.
At present I'm around 1 month storage and each time I go into the shops, I try to get an additional 3 days to 1 week food. These at the moment are cans which present another problem.
The old saying is "Store what you eat and eat what you store". This doesn't work for me. I HATE eating out of cans and prefer no frozen. Most of our food is fresh at the moment.
If people are not working then electricity could go which after a time has a knock on effect on sewage/water.
Water - I have a single travellers flask with filter for when I'm out. In addition I've got a kind of charcoal filter combined with tablets which should see some time. I like the look of the Berkefield units but I've just invested in 2 x filter pumping devices. One for personal use and one for community use.
Cooking - Camping Gaz followed by Rocket Stove with Kelly Kettle.
Heating -- Thermal Underwear
Finally there is another kind of preparation that is not a disaster kind but where you need to leave your home for maybe a relatives or someone. You need to leave in an hour .
Suggest you might look at http://www.onebag.com/ . This was a site for travellers to put as much as possible in a single carry on bag. Grab their PDF - It makes an interesting BOB without the survivalist framework. Useful for when you've got to escape to the Mother-in-law or whatever.
Thats it for now sweeties.