"fuel storage" Not volume but quaility..

[Malthouse]

It ranges from just trouble starting to an occasional badly timed stall, but I knew of some a bit ago where entire fuel systems including fuel pumps were stuffed.

Water getting into diesel is worse than petrol in my experience.

[Markwoody]

As the owner of an older vehicle (honda C90 cub) there has been a lot of talk of this on the forums , best advice is : only use Shell V power as this is the only petrol that is not using ethanol (at the moment)
this is also confirmed to me by a mate that has a light aircraft that uses pump fuel , he has to test for ethanol , ethanol would be bad news in an aircraft due to it absorbing water and freezing .(as well as damage to the fuel system)

[Yorkshire Andy]

As the owner of an older vehicle (honda C90 cub) there has been a lot of talk of this on the forums , best advice is : only use Shell V power as this is the only petrol that is not using ethanol (at the moment)
this is also confirmed to me by a mate that has a light aircraft that uses pump fuel , he has to test for ethanol , ethanol would be bad news in an aircraft due to it absorbing water and freezing .(as well as damage to the fuel system)

thats interesting just wonder if the new "v power NITRO" means they are now adding it?

[edward.21]

Been talking to a few people lately as most will be aware Petrol goes "off" in storage,,

Now by the word storage Im not implying storing 100's of litres as that would be bloody dangerous and a slight bit Illegal.... thinking more like that thats left over winter in the Lawn mower, or the summer in the chain saw...

Anyhow someone (ex forrester / engineer ) told me Honda and Stihl engines really dont like "old fuel" as in stuff more than a few months old so all those with chain saws, bush cutters, lawnmowers it might be of interest....

Apparently (from a chemist who works in a oil refinery for one of the big uk firms) told me most fuels be them Diesel or Petrol are been cut with Organic alcohols (bio fuel blends) and many car makers for the past few years have been replacing car fuel tanks with Plastic containers over the traditional metal... why?,,,, they knew this was coming and obviously designed out the potential issues....


anyhow bit more digging and found All Uk Petrol contains Ethanol..

Future legal requirements for biofuels
Currently fuel companies are permitted and, from 2010, will be legally obliged to mix five per cent bioethanol with 95 per cent petrol and five per cent biodiesel with 95 per cent conventional diesel. Mixes at these levels will not do any damage to fuel systems, nor require any adjustments, and will be a standard ingredient of the fuel. Renault and Peugeot-Citroen are now offering some of their vehicles with the ability to use B30 - a 30 per cent biodiesel/70 per cent conventional diesel mix.

Biofuels may help to ease our reliance on fossil fuels and biodiesel is an excellent way of reusing waste cooking oil, but at current rates of fuel use they are not the complete answer. There is simply not sufficient land to grow enough crops for both food and fuel.

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/news/biofuels.html


bit more reading and it turns out that Petrol now among loosing its Volatility with age also absorbs water vapour from the air....

Fine in a modern car as its fuel system is nearly all Plastic (think old cars with metal tanks fuel lines and carbs...) where as modern cars use direct injection .....


But Garden / plant machinery has failed to keep up with evolution ... As such water allegedly in the fuel can cause issues with corrosion / oxidation in carbs/ fuel tanks / valve areas of the inlet and exhaust due to excessive condensation from exhaust vapours...


Getting to the nub of the matter most suppliers of garden machinery now sell fuel stabiliser additives and seem to endorse their use.....


http://engines.honda.com/parts-and-supp ... mendations

http://www.stihlusa.com/information/art ... equipment/

http://www.briggsandstratton.com/us/en/ ... -additives


Anyone



Looking at the Amazon reviews they seem to be popular eg:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews ... Descending


Does anyone use it as part of their prepping as it seems a rather handy thing to be using if you have a can of fuel spare for the Garden tools or a generator for standby use to protect / preserve / make much easier to start?

Got a bottle of the Brigs stuff but cant really comment on how good it is or isn't suppose time will tell as the lawn mower was a c u next tuesday to start this spring i run it up last night with a measure in the tank to draw it though .. Suppose time will tell .....

i'm not sure if this is helpful but lpg can substitute for petrol in most (not 2 stroke) engines very easily and it has an indefinite shelf life.

[Steveo82]

i'm not sure if this is helpful but lpg can substitute for petrol in most (not 2 stroke) engines very easily and it has an indefinite shelf life.

I have an LPG car (landrover 110)and it's not all plain sailing after the conversion.

[Hamradioop]

found this on line when searching for petrol preservation UK. treats 35 Gallons

FROST AUTO RESTORATION TECHNIQUES
Crawford Street, Rochdale
Lancashire
OL16 5NU

Opening Hours:
Monday - Friday: 8:30 - 17:00

Phone: 01706 758 258
Fax: 01706 860 338
Email: order@frost.co.uk

POR15 Fuel Preservative & Stabilizer (US Pint)
In stock: Ready to ship
Product code: S231
Only
£13.50

http://www.frost.co.uk/automotive-tanks ... -pint.html

[ForgeCorvus]

Its a US product, check the dosage as US pints are 16floz and their gallons are also smaller

Apart for that, Good find there mate