Bugging Out ?

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Carrot Cruncher wrote:Gnole, I admit that yours is the most likely scenario...though I would still rather be in my camper than a travel lodge, but however unlikely you believe it to be you honestly have no plans at all beyond a B&B or staying with friends for a couple of hours? even for something a lot more serious ?

Not a critcism, we are all here for different reasons........just curious

Part of the reason I like the camper is that it covers (to a certain extent) a hell of a lot of different scenarios from the low risk, high probablity events, to the high risk, low probability events and most cases in between
I tend to look at it like an insurer does, Passenger airlines rarely crash but when they do it is usually a high casualty rate, where as car crashes tend to be frequent but low casualty rate, it is to do with "risk assessment", I am more likely to have a power/water outage than an 18 wheeler wiping out my house. :mrgreen:

Prepare for the little things and let the big ones sort themselves out, prepping for one often covers multiples
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I agree with the insurance analogy and doing Risk Assesments, it's pretty much what I do.

It was just that I see quite often on various sites when the subject of bugging out comes up (and as I said it is a very last resort for me) someone will say something along the lines of "all you need is a credit card/cash and book yourself into a hotel" which is fine for the high probability/low risk events but doesn't really cover some of the more severe/extreme events with a low probability but high risk.

I'll rephrase the original question

For those people that plan to bug out (in a severe/extreme scenario where a hotel etc isn't going to suffice :D ), without going into detail what are your plans ?

Have you a pre-arranged group to meet up with ? are you parking your caravan in the middle of Rannoch Moor, are you going to try and rough it in the woods ? play it by ear ?

Just curious as although "bugging out" is a very last resort for me, bugging out without at least some sort of place to go and realistic plan isn't really much of a plan at all
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Actually, I'd like to see a meet some day in the middle of Rannoch Moor, be very interesting to see how or if anybody could cope ! Our car broke down there late at night many years ago when I had a toddler and a newborn, and it was VERY VERY DARK & QUIET :shock:
Here's a nice wee pic - imagine it in winter in a westerly gale though :mrgreen: Click on the pic of the rail bridge, it enlarges nicely. This is actually a nice wee site, I know all these places very well.
http://waronthemotorist.wordpress.com/2 ... noch-moor/
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the-gnole wrote:My "bug out" plan is not for apocalyptic events, a "Bug out" should, IMO, be no more than three days, maybe a week at a push, and I would head for the nearest Premier inn or Travel lodge out of the affected/effected area. So in the UK that would be about a mile over the bridge.

A bag with some clothes in and some cash would deal with that.

Having been within a couple of hundred yards of two major industrial unit fires it was a case of a stay at the parents place for a few hours, then to friends for a couple of hours then home again in the evening.

Wer might think about an emergency box for the out of town lock-up garage, but that's about all that is needed.
Hallelujah! I was beginning to think I was on my own on this one and all the time, there was Gnole thinking the same thing! Bulldogeagle wasn't impressed when I said hotel, he intimated it was very un-prepperish. :D
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It was the bleakest place I could think of Lil, I spent a day there once...that was enough :D

Mind you, I was on Bodmin Moor yesterday morning at about 8:00 am, The wind was blowing a gale, the rain was horizontal, and it was bleeding freezing. I know the SW is meant to be generally mild but anyone who fancies bugging out to Bodmin better be prepared for it
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Carrot Cruncher wrote:It was the bleakest place I could think of Lil, I spent a day there once...that was enough :D

Mind you, I was on Bodmin Moor yesterday morning at about 8:00 am, The wind was blowing a gale, the rain was horizontal, and it was bleeding freezing. I know the SW is meant to be generally mild but anyone who fancies bugging out to Bodmin better be prepared for it
But I guess a moor like Bodmin or Rannoch would keep the non prepared away. A semi solid structure would be needed, personally, but it could be done. Should be fresh water springs - you could cache some food stocks and leave a stone mound as a marker.
Has anyone thought about converting a horse trailer/box/lorry as a bug out vehicle?
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Hallelujah! I was beginning to think I was on my own on this one and all the time, there was Gnole thinking the same thing! Bulldogeagle wasn't impressed when I said hotel, he intimated it was very un-prepperish.
"un-prepperish" you bad prepper you :lol:

I do agree with you....but what if the situation was such that a hotel wasn't an option, a regional / nationwide emergency of some description....not probable I know, but possible.
But I guess a moor like Bodmin or Rannoch would keep the non prepared away. A semi solid structure would be needed, personally, but it could be done. Should be fresh water springs - you could cache some food stocks and leave a stone mound as a marker.
Has anyone thought about converting a horse trailer/box/lorry as a bug out vehicle?
You would definitely need a well thought through plan to bug out in that environment, a problem with a lot of the moors like bodmin is that although there is plenty of water around, a lot of it is in stagnant ponds and bogs (and probably full of sheep s***) so you would need a good filter.

Su, my friend has a big horse transporter she takes to Shows and it would be excellent. The front half is kitted out like a campervan and the back half is used for the horses.

I blame Teedee for this ....I'm halfway through reading the book "Lucifers hammer" that he lent me....and yes I know that scenario is probably beyond any plans we could make :D
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Carrot Cruncher wrote: I blame Teedee for this ....I'm halfway through reading the book "Lucifers hammer" that he lent me....and yes I know that scenario is probably beyond any plans we could make :D
I've just ordered that from Amazon. Looks good! :mrgreen:
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Carrot Cruncher wrote:
Hallelujah! I was beginning to think I was on my own on this one and all the time, there was Gnole thinking the same thing! Bulldogeagle wasn't impressed when I said hotel, he intimated it was very un-prepperish.
i never said it was unprepperish-just that in some places hotel's are not so readily available, the nearest hotel to me is a motel 13 miles away and is what TPTB will use as a "rescue centre" so for me that is out. i have scouted the area and have found 4 Long abandoned cottages which i intend to use as BOL's, all in isolated locations away from towns and villages, my first intention is to Bug In but if things go pear shaped i have somewhere X4 to relocate to.
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:mrgreen: I think water on Rannoch would be the least of your problems! BTW Does whisky purify water? they say it does .