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Thanks Plymtom, glad you like the chat :)

Unfortunately in a SHTF situation where there is no health care system left people with health issues such as cardiac, respiratory, psychiatric or neurological are not going to have it easy at all.

As we have alluded to previously with diabetes. if you need medications and food to survive now, look at the difficulty with no med or food.

now take it one stage further, someone with COPD or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, they require daily medications, long term oxygen,nebulisers to breath.
In the SHTF situation none of this may be available, they will die.

Imagine that the situation has caused contaminated air supply as in the 9/11 attacks, everyone will be affected, depending on the contaminants protection required may be a dust type mask or may go to full breathing apparatus.

Unfortunately this is not feasible, there is not enough b.a for everyone or cylinders and no way of replenishing supplies.

one word on dust masks and 9/11 In that situation everyone went on instinct, airs bad grab a mask, no one can be demeaned or reprimanded for those actions, but I personally would go with a good fitted either full or partial face respirator with cbrn quality filters.

the increase in people developing respiratory issues from the situation will add to the medical case load.

I dont want to seem judgemental or write people off, actually after seeing Patriotnurse on youtube I initially became pissed off, but on reflection some of her views are correct, however I think if you prep with this focus then you may have a chance.

I make these remarks as someone with a disability and have 2 immediate family with disabilities reducing their mobility. My personal plan is to bug in and try and form a community, this may not be every ones plan.

Please keep the thread going, I hope you are enjoying it as much as I am.
Mark. :D :D
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medicmark wrote:I make these remarks as someone with a disability and have 2 immediate family with disabilities reducing their mobility. My personal plan is to bug in and try and form a community, this may not be every ones plan.
Sounds like you'd be an asset and yes pretty much what I think I would try to do, though perhaps not straight away, the natives get a bit out of control as it is.
I have a strategy, it's not written in stone, nor can it be, this scenario has too many variables, everything about it depends on those variables, being specific is not possible.
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brambles is correct in the view that health care will definitely be vastly reduced and this made me think and reflect.

We prepare our equipment for the worst case scenario with various things, for example tourniquet for life threatening bleeding, excellent will save someone short term, but it is only kinking the hose until we get them to hospital or in the shtf situation some kind of field hospital, I honestly dont believe there will be no medical provision nurses,doctors,paramedics etc will be with you as survivors and will still carry the best bit of kit available- knowledge.

If the correct person with the skill and equipment is available and married up it will be a very valuable resource, however the outcomes will be very very different.

If we say someone has seriously cut an arm or a leg then they most probably will have the limb sacrificed if simple closure cant be achieved, this may sound dramatic but we would not have the luxury of a vascular surgeon and team to do intricate repairs of vessels and nerves/tendons and all the resources that goes with them.

If we have someone having a heart attack, they are highly likely going to die again as the normal care facilities are not available, same with a stroke, so what can we do?

Well this is why I implore you to look at your medical preps seriously, some people go mad with purchasing full on surgical kits for the what if situation but arent prepared to more effectively and wisely use that money to go on a course, and theres many cracking courses available, so think smart with your medical preps and get trained up.

keep the questions coming, tell me about your kits.
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My kit's much the same as other people's I guess, as I've nicked all the easily accessible ideas from this forum. St John's first aid kit including clothes scissors, wipes, usual smattering of dressings and bandages as well as plasters, eye wash, tweezers, israeli dressing, butterly sutures, Combat Application Tourniquet (I understand the limitation of the CAT when SHTF, it's more for pre-SHTF family safety). I've also stashed a substantial amount of ibuprofen, paracetemol and aspirin, as well as a few diarrohea tablets. I'm going to add chlorine dioxide tablets (not the 'normal' Oasis stuff as they're less effective) for water purification.
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Most of my preps are for day to day shtf rather than end of the world...


Here are my usual first aid kits...

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=10154#p110751

All been updated recently..

My family day out pack has a small kit on the side in a pouch which turned heads on holiday when the little un took a good chunk of skin out her heel on a playground slide.... Leaking red stuff nicely obviously making plenty of noise and creating lots of attention to her situation as

A it hurts
B its leaking red stuff
C we might have to leave the park

Plonked on mummy's knee Sandal off

Saline wipe miolin pad bit of micropore tape and crisis averted and a ice cream stopped the tears..


By this time we had a audience.. A big audience ..

Now Mrs andy is a paediatric first aider (and goodie) I'm a 3 day FA@work (and a badie) Mum sooths and comforts whilst I prod poke hold and dress...

As i was taping someone kindly produced some baby wipes out of a nappy bag but it was all done...

Had 2 people asking / saying a first aid kit is a good idea in a bag when you go out for the day but neither had one... Others just looked dumbfounded

Didn't tell them that a 2 minute run to the car and back was the big bag in the link above

But. The day pouch has more stuff In it than a basic first aid kit that you would pick up at a supermarket....
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sethorly wrote:I'm not diabetic. But I'm halfway through a large packet of Liquorice Allsorts so I'll probably get there soon.
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Post-shit I'm more likely to die of an adrenal crisis at the very thought of no more liquorice allsorts!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
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this is my view but in the u.k we rend to look at shtf very differently than the americans, we look at real risks such as merauding gunmen, severe weather, service breakdown.

I think thats why prepping gets a bad name because of the american perception.

I like yourselves look at shtf as any of the above I have detailed, my biggest worry is breakdown of medical services, its already happening, people waiting 50 minutes for an ambulance.
love your thoughts/ questions

Mark. :D
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What I would like is a good sensible book on old-fashioned home nursing techniques. Not too old-fashioned obv but in general, they dealt with a lot of things at home in the past and they would have had a lot of useful knowledge. What I wouldn't like however, is an army/forces book on how to do surgery in the field. :twisted:
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diamond lil wrote:What I would like is a good sensible book on old-fashioned home nursing techniques. Not too old-fashioned obv but in general, they dealt with a lot of things at home in the past and they would have had a lot of useful knowledge. What I wouldn't like however, is an army/forces book on how to do surgery in the field. :twisted:

LOL My mother clung on to 4 Red Cross manuals she was studying toward the end of WW2, they'd only just gotten anti-biotics off the ground hadn't they? I used to tease her something chronic.
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Yep, and if the S does seriously do it's stuff then we'll be right back before the war won't we, No antiBs.