Household items that double as defence

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Where does it say you can't have weapons in your own house? I'd doesn't! The offence is:

Section 1 Prevention of Crime Act 1953

(1)Any person who without lawful authority or reasonable excuse, the proof whereof shall lie on him, has with him in any public place any offensive weapon shall be guilty of an offence.

The key bit is PUBLIC PLACE. You can have all the weapons you want and there's nothing the police can do about it. The link to the CPS relates to the use of force which is a separate issue all together. I'm not advocating beat to death anybody who comes into your house you don't like but at least know the law your prepping under.
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I have just received a reply to my question, "What weapons is it legal to keep at home (UK)?" of my good friend, ex-copper, no longer living in the UK.

"Almost all offences involving weapons have to be in a public place to create a criminal offence. However a home can be a public place when public have limited access, but generally speaking a home is a private place. So only offence would be possession of a Restricted or Prohibited Weapon, such as a tazer, firearm (without a licence) or explosives of some sort. This allows all sorts of weird 'collections' to be perfectly legal. Now possession of things in a public place is a whole different matter and would require a small book to explain."

Hope this helps.

The word "collections" put me in mind of those displays you find in castles - swords, pikestaffs, etc arranged decoratively on the wall, as if they existed to look pretty and not to kill people.
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FEISTY wrote:The word "collections" put me in mind of those displays you find in castles - swords, pikestaffs, etc arranged decoratively on the wall, as if they existed to look pretty and not to kill people.
I have a collection of sorts Athames (daggers to the rest of you) and bowie knives in the main on the wall as are my crossbow, pistol crossbow and compound bow, the archery gear frankly because it's cumbersome and you have to look past guitars to see the crossbows ( bolts and arrows are locked away) none of this is intended for self defence any more then the knives on magnetic racks in the kitchen are, and Police officers have been in the room, it's obvious when you think about it, you couldn't buy it so openly if you couldn't have it, this has to include carrying it home from where you bought it.
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Years ago I had a police baton, purchased when they were legal to buy.. around 1999/2000. In 2010 after they became illegal to buy, sell, trade, carry my house was searched by the police (unrelated charge of which I was innocent and released the same day with no further action; mistaken identity). They held it up, asked me about it, I told them I had had it for about 11 years and it never left the house, it was put back and not mentioned again.
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Manclife wrote:Where does it say you can't have weapons in your own house? I'd doesn't! The offence is:

Section 1 Prevention of Crime Act 1953

(1)Any person who without lawful authority or reasonable excuse, the proof whereof shall lie on him, has with him in any public place any offensive weapon shall be guilty of an offence.

The key bit is PUBLIC PLACE. You can have all the weapons you want and there's nothing the police can do about it. The link to the CPS relates to the use of force which is a separate issue all together. I'm not advocating beat to death anybody who comes into your house you don't like but at least know the law your prepping under.
doesn't mean you can defend with them. I am fan of "my house my castle" rule - unfortunately law says you cannot for example attack a guy who broke into your house and only shouts at you. you have to offer burglar a cup of tea and beg politely to leave your property :D
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I was using a Henry hoover today, the tubes are stainless steel rather then plastic and are a good size for a baton.....Just saying :|
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ForgeCorvus wrote:I was using a Henry hoover today, the tubes are stainless steel rather then plastic and are a good size for a baton.....Just saying :|
Knock them out then suck their brains out through their nose, I can think of a similar scenario with a spray gun :mrgreen:
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ForgeCorvus wrote:I was using a Henry hoover today, the tubes are stainless steel rather then plastic and are a good size for a baton.....Just saying :|
that's a good point. you can use nearly everything that is heavy to defend yourself. life is not a movie with "hero" walking with crowbar or katana :D
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ForgeCorvus wrote:I was using a Henry hoover today, the tubes are stainless steel rather then plastic and are a good size for a baton.....Just saying :|
that's a good point. you can use nearly everything that is heavy to defend yourself. life is not a movie with "hero" walking with crowbar or katana :D
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Re: Household items that double as defence

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Interesting post my parents have a umbrella stand in the hallway with brolly and walking sticks both usefull tools in defence situation and as far as know perfectly legal...