Bomb shelters

[Dogfood]

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... k=pop_more

[i_am_jim]

if i had the money i would definitly have my own bunker.

[Partimehero]

The best one is by Utah Shelter Systems. If there was radiation involved, the other designs would let radiation straight into the main living area.

[poppypiesdad]

The best one is by Utah Shelter Systems. If there was radiation involved, the other designs would let radiation straight into the main living area.

Absolute tosh , the utah ss is so flimsy and impratical in any area with a high water table , is no better than the old anderson shelters during the 2nd ww. Big woop its got a 90 degree bend , thank god there only availabe in the USA.

I guess a ROC post or a decomissiond command bunker is usless , 50 ft underground with 4 foot thick blast doors.

MEH!

[Partimehero]

The best one is by Utah Shelter Systems. If there was radiation involved, the other designs would let radiation straight into the main living area.

Absolute tosh , the utah ss is so flimsy and impratical in any area with a high water table , is no better than the old anderson shelters during the 2nd ww. Big woop its got a 90 degree bend , thank god there only availabe in the USA.

I guess a ROC post or a decomissiond command bunker is usless , 50 ft underground with 4 foot thick blast doors.

Agreed, high water tables aren't good for this shelter. But high water tables are not good for ANY shelter unless you've got a fully sealed, fully lined structure (which cost much much more).

I've installed 3 of these over here but only after ground water tests / water table tests have been carried out. They've been in the ground for some time now and there have been no problems because these have been installed correctly. I've turned down client requests because their water table is just too high.

These shelters are manufactured from corrugated steel pipes that are welded and and jointed to a high specification. The same material is used for underpasses, culverts, accessible manholes, rainwater storage receptors and entrance and exit hubs..... All at various locations INCLUDING Old Trafford, MK Dons stadium, RAF Brize Norton, Dublin Airport and numerous Tesco, B&Q and commercial projects up and down the UK. The very same stuff is also used by the Highways Agency.

So, not inferior flimsy products.

The Utah shelters system caters for just about ANY disaster scenario including a close air burst nuke. Corrugated steel pipe, being totally different to rolled corrugated sheets (that were used for the Anderson shelters) is designed to flex and twist. In the event of a nuclear blast, it will allow movement during violent earth motion. It will flex and twist during the 'ground slap' of a nuclear blast. Concrete shelters and rigid walled structures (including shipping containers) will buckle or even crack.

The Anderson shelter was good at the time as it offered a degree of blast protection being buried under 500mm - 1000mm of earth. That's all it needed to offer back then. It worked by saving many lives. Nowadays the same design would be pretty much useless in the face of modern weaponry.

If the ROC posts had the required entry shafts incorporating the correct geometry, then these would've been ideal. But being concrete, these are very labour intensive, much more time on site being required and tying all that rebar in place hurts after a few days!

[Partimehero]

I guess a ROC post or a decomissiond command bunker is usless , 50 ft underground with 4 foot thick blast doors.

50ft underground with 4ft thick doors would be perfect

[docw]

This one appears great. But I think the previous owner was a little out of touch with his rotation system.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... eenex.html

[Partimehero]

..... Looks better than mine. I'd better pull my finger out!

[Moony]

Quite interesting pictures there. Seems that most of the stuff was in pretty good condition for 50+ years old. Interesting to see that the can of coffee had rusted through and a tin of pills (?/medicine?) appeared to have suffered badly, but pretty much everything else was pristine. Must be very dry up there I guess ! Think the Daily Mail reporter should have been forced to try a tin of 50 yr-old Multi-Purpose Food in the interests of journalism

Also, a whole case of champagne in the first picture ! If he was going in a nuclear war, he was going with style !

[Partimehero]

I renovated a basement last year and the owner (who had lived at the property for 15 years) didn't realise it was actually a basement shelter, very similar to a Swiss type. I had to clear out 2 skip loads of junk - she had old steel buckets down there, a load of old furniture, smashed tiles, toys and a vintage mouldy TV! The ventilation unit was only a hand turn affair so would've been pretty much useless back in the day. It was so rusty, you couldn't even get anything for scrap!

New lick of paint, decent lighting, decent ventilation and she was happy to use it as another room!