Mini Trangea versus Tatonka Alcohol Stove

nickdutch · Post by **nickdutch** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:04 pm

Just tried the mini trangia stove. its pot stand keeps the pot closer to the heat source than the pot stand on the tatonka, but the tatonka seems to be built in a more sturdy way.

On top of that the trangea pot stand which is made out of one singular piece of aluminium isn't prone to fall to pieces unlike he tatonka 4 part design.

The flame height was also larger and seemed o give off a lot more heat and brought water to the boil much sooner.

All in all, the trangea is totally superior in nearly every way IMHO.

However I'm not going to throw out the tatonka stove as I want to have more than one burner going under some circumstances to heat larger pots with bigger pot bases.

The trangea fits nicely in the tatonka pot stand and visa versa.

rik_uk3 · Post by **rik_uk3** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:44 pm

You've got it right. The Tatonka is well made but the stainless steel works against it, takes longer to reach full 'bloom' I'm a big fan of proper Trangia's, don't like the army cooksets though.

nickdutch · Post by **nickdutch** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:05 pm

rik_uk3 wrote:You've got it right. The Tatonka is well made but the stainless steel works against it, takes longer to reach full 'bloom' I'm a big fan of proper Trangia's, don't like the army cooksets though.

But even when it was full bloom, the tatonka was still pretty sub standard (English understatement

) in terms of temperature and flame height.

redskies · Post by **redskies** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:17 pm

Had a look at these the other day, they seem a good idea, although I'd have to test it to be sure if it works as well as it looks like it would.

http://www.dutchovens.co.uk/ghillie-kettles.html

I'm definitely up for some dutch ovens. And I'll probably buy the billycans too - they'll be great to take out when foraging

nickdutch · Post by **nickdutch** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:24 pm

redskies wrote:Had a look at these the other day, they seem a good idea, although I'd have to test it to be sure if it works as well as it looks like it would.

http://www.dutchovens.co.uk/ghillie-kettles.html

I'm definitely up for some dutch ovens. And I'll probably buy the billycans too - they'll be great to take out when foraging

Yea, I want to save up for one so that I will have another fuel option. You can get cooking pot stands for the chimneys too.

redskies · Post by **redskies** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:28 pm

Looking at the site, I'm probably going to end up saving up for a lot of it - or building it myself. I have welding kit and access to scrap yards and I'm not afraid to use them!

rik_uk3 · Post by **rik_uk3** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:03 pm

The Kelly kettles work well.....so long as you have wood.

Dutch ovens are great but are very heavy, need a lot of maintenance too. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-Stainless-S ... 1e6599e667 These do all a DO can do, are lighter, easy to clean, no maintainence required. I have cast iron cookware at home but sold my last outdoor DO a couple of years ago...the concept is nicer than the experience of using them when outdoors IMHO.

Darktide · Post by **Darktide** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:57 pm

rik_uk3 wrote:The Kelly kettles work well.....so long as you have wood.

Dutch ovens are great but are very heavy, need a lot of maintenance too. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-Stainless-S ... 1e6599e667 These do all a DO can do, are lighter, easy to clean, no maintainence required. I have cast iron cookware at home but sold my last outdoor DO a couple of years ago...the concept is nicer than the experience of using them when outdoors IMHO.

sorry Rik but you cant use one of those stainless steel pots the same way as a Dutch oven. True, they need to be seasoned periodically but cleaning is quite easy, just pour clean water in and put them back on the heat after you've finished cooking then use a plastic scourer. I've roasted all sorts of meals in a Dutch oven, baked bread, stews, casseroles etc...great piece of kit but definitely heavy.

rik_uk3 · Post by **rik_uk3** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:59 am

Darktide wrote:
rik_uk3 wrote:The Kelly kettles work well.....so long as you have wood.

Dutch ovens are great but are very heavy, need a lot of maintenance too. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-Stainless-S ... 1e6599e667 These do all a DO can do, are lighter, easy to clean, no maintainence required. I have cast iron cookware at home but sold my last outdoor DO a couple of years ago...the concept is nicer than the experience of using them when outdoors IMHO.
sorry Rik but you cant use one of those stainless steel pots the same way as a Dutch oven. True, they need to be seasoned periodically but cleaning is quite easy, just pour clean water in and put them back on the heat after you've finished cooking then use a plastic scourer. I've roasted all sorts of meals in a Dutch oven, baked bread, stews, casseroles etc...great piece of kit but definitely heavy.

Sorry mate, but you can, I do

Bake, roast, boil, DO's are more a fashion item these days but I do like my Le Cresuet set at home

On top of the wood burner, cheesey bread inside, could just have easily done it on hot embers. I'll try and find some more photo's to demonstrate more clearly.

The-Great-Nothing · Post by **The-Great-Nothing** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:42 am

Hi Rik

Would love a recipe & tutorial on making bread in a pan on an open fire if you get the chance

Sure it will be really useful info for lots of folk.

Cheers

Matt

uk-preppers.co.uk