Pharmaceuticals should be the last resort

[morgawr]

Pharmaceuticals only treat symptoms, there is a time and place for them, but mostly they destroy your health.
This is the grand design of Pharma, if they cured the sick, Pharmaceuticals would be out of business.
I won't push this opinion further but I would like to point out a great alternative.

www.eartclinic.com

I have no links with this site other than I use holistic remedies to help my COPD.
I do believe without doubt that I would be totally cured of COPD if I stopped smoking and continued with treatments found on site.

Also I would ask you all to download some free online books that will blow some of you away.

1) The Body's many cries for water.
2) The Miracle of Magnesium
3) The Miracle of Hydrogen Peroxide

All three products are 100% natural.

I always thought as a youngster the body was capable of healing it's self given chance, many years later I found earth clinic
and I have never looked back.
Pretty much all things can be cured naturally, Lungs-Hart-Cancers everything.

You got hart trouble, Blood Pressure problems, look up Cayenne Pepper on earth clinic, A warm glass of water with less than half a teaspoon of cayenne pepper will stop a hart attack in it's tracks and will cure your blood pressure. Drink this twice a day and very quickly the heat of the peppers will not bother you.

Bicarbonate of soda / Baking Powder is fantastic at getting rid of stomach acid in minutes and has even made my partners cystitis clear fast and major dulled the pain in 10 mins.

Never take my word or any ones on this, but investigate yourself. Don't stop taking your medicines and always let family know if you start using holistic treatments.

The products I talk about cost pennies and added to preppers health kits are a massive bonus in self reliance but you should consider using some of these idea's on a daily basis.

You may think I'm nuts but the books are freely downloadable and what harm could it do to just read them.

I wish I knew this 5yrs ago, my dad would not be dead from throat cancer now.

Cancer is totally and easily cured........... but a simple pennies cure would wipe billions of Pharmaceutical profits and all that lost research cash, it goes way deeper than that.

[preppingsu]

You make some very far reaching claims on your post.

If making claims like this we would ask that you post some credible research and statistics/data to back up your claims. By that we would be looking at medical journals etc not just the website of the product you are advertising.

[morgawr]

I feel at this point it's best to stay quiet in the hope you keep the post up and give something for people to at least investigate for themselves, your reply is very FDA.

[itsybitsy]

I feel at this point it's best to stay quiet in the hope you keep the post up and give something for people to at least investigate for themselves, your reply is very FDA.

If people want to take bicarbonate of soda for indigestion then I have no issue with that - my grandma used to do it. But if you are telling us that cayenne pepper can cure cancer and stop heart attacks then that's laughable. If you are having a heart attack, then there ain't nothing going to stop that other than pretty rapid professional medical intervention and, if you're really unlucky, a defibrilator.

Now, there is research onging into the use of cayenne for various medical applications, which you can see if you click on the link to the University of Maryland Medical Center, but it is NOT going to stop a heart attack. Ever. I'm pretty sure there is no mention of it curing cancer either. Helpfully, at the bottom of that web page, is an extensive list of sources of supporting research.

http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/herb/cayenne

I think herbal and holistic remedies have their place, but not for everything. And medical 'professionals' who advise people against *proven* mainstream medical treatment for life-threatening conditions, when they cannot back up their claims, are dangerous and irresponsible.

[delard]

Cancer is totally and easily cured........... but a simple pennies cure would wipe billions of Pharmaceutical profits and all that lost research cash, it goes way deeper than that.

This is complete rubbish.

If there was a simple cure for cancer - do you really think that not one of profit hungry pharma companies would break ranks and patent it and sell it for a huge price? They would make 100's of billions of dollars... Not only that - but your claim also assumes that none of the 1000's of scientists working on medical research are willing to blow the whistle on the great conspiracy.

This isn't just nonsense - its very dangerous nonsense. People die because of it. A lot of them children whose parents have bought into this rubbish and deny them real medicine. Here are some examples :

http://whatstheharm.net/alternativemedicine.html
http://whatstheharm.net/energymedicine.html
http://whatstheharm.net/herbalremedies.html
http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
etc etc - you can find many other examples.

Tim Minchin says it better than I can : http://www.slate.com/articles/health_an ... eason.html

- Delard

[delard]

Here is an example happening right now.

A ten year old girl has leukemia and the doctors think she has an 85% chance of full recovery with their treatment - and almost zero chance without it. However the parents disagree and are giving her a "regimen of herbs and vitamins" instead.

http://www.ibtimes.com/sarah-hershberge ... py-1489330

I'm sure the parents believe they are doing the right thing - but they have been misinformed by nonsense like that in the OP. If someone wants to believe the moon landings were hoaxed then I disagree - but whatever it doesn't hurt anyone. But if you tell people you know how to cure cancer (and you don't have lots of hard evidence) - then you take some responsibility for tragedies like this one.

- Delard

[Malthouse]

I do believe without doubt that I would be totally cured of COPD if I stopped smoking and continued with treatments found on site.

There are lots of causes of Chronic Pulmonary Obstructive Disease, but no ailment is helped by smoking and certainly no variation on the theme of reduced breathing capacity.

Some of my patients are learning to live with COPD, some understand that it is a degenerative condition that can never be reversed. They willingly give up smoking in order to slow the painful and debilitating process and to reduce the pressure they put on their families.

Others keep going, keep poisoning themselves and those around them.

And for the record cancer is not one single problem, there will never be one effective cure for all. Because there is no one single cause.

Unhelpful and conspiracy theorist poppycock, that is my response to this thread. Unless you can demonstrate otherwise?

[nickdutch]

Unhelpful and conspiracy theorist poppycock, that is my response to this thread. Unless you can demonstrate otherwise?

Makes me want to sing the national anthem and toast the Health of Her Majesty

[Spiderwebb]

Personally I'd like to see this thread removed. I don't doubt the sincerity behind the posting, but I'm afraid either nativity or ignorance are at play. This misguided information could bring false hope to some who stumbles across it, and to me that's unacceptable.

Theories and beliefs make for interesting debate over beer, but in my experience they rarely translate as intended or perceived in a blog; I guess that's one reason why people still write books.

Stick to facts and build plans around them depending on how you forsee the future i.e. be prepared, and stay away from thin ice! For me, this forum is about sharing those facts and plans for the benefit of others.

Spiderwebb out.

[Sheepster]

I dont agree with the information given in the first post but you cant just delete stuff that YOU dont agree with, Bloomin hell what about free speech. I believe dowsing for water etc works as Ive done it but I have no proof and Im probably just nuts...well probably am . Do you see where Im going with this. I understand that potentially this information could prevent someone receiving proper medicine but Im very cautious about censorship and honestly apart from the odd case the media scrapes up most people would take this with a pinch of salt...or cayenne. Sorry for rambling and I know I'm in for it now but in this ever increasing nanny state of ours forums are one of the last bastions where people can talk about things that may be considered nutty or outside of general acceptance like taking cayenne for cancer or prepping for EMP's....