To bug out would be to abandon whatever you have left behind and assume it will be taken destroyed. You may be able to cache stuff but you cannot really expect to find all your caches intact.
If you bug out, you house will be salvaged by any one left behind at a minimum. I would anticipate it being burned down in reality, for me bugging out is an absolute last resort. I do not have a BOL other than some family who live in built up areas. My plan is to move away from my current location when circumstances permit to a more rural location.
What would there be to come back to?
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Hamradioop
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Re: What would there be to come back to?
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.” ― Edward R. Murrow
"Remember Politicians are like babies diapers they both need changing often for the very same reason" - Mark Twain
If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.
"Remember Politicians are like babies diapers they both need changing often for the very same reason" - Mark Twain
If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.
Re: What would there be to come back to?
So is the real question how much is enough because if you cant take it with you, having more than you can see things staying sane and safe for is a waste, it would be more practical to actually store above that level elsewhere, because if it's safe enough to stay put, then it could be safe enough to go and get your extra stores as you need them, from somewhere you could bug out to if you had to?
It could also make things less obvious and your life less cluttered, a little patch of woodland or a prepper haven? lets say a caravan site, where we all buy a caravan parked above a buried container full of preps
It could also make things less obvious and your life less cluttered, a little patch of woodland or a prepper haven? lets say a caravan site, where we all buy a caravan parked above a buried container full of preps
I have a strategy, it's not written in stone, nor can it be, this scenario has too many variables, everything about it depends on those variables, being specific is not possible.
Re: What would there be to come back to?
It puzzles me why people think that 'every' house would be burned to the ground after people bug out?
Looted and stripped, maybe, but why would marauders or whoever be so interested in burning down every property they visit, it makes no sense. Afterall they may need to go back and take more or even make use of it for any number of reasons.
So For me the reality is that yes you may have to bug out at some point, but things will die down (literally) after time and then I would look to move back (unless I had a decent alternative property in which I was safe, secure, warm etc etc).
Obviously moving back would be a careful operation undertaken over a drawn out period of time to ensure that the area is safe and that there is something to go back to!
Looted and stripped, maybe, but why would marauders or whoever be so interested in burning down every property they visit, it makes no sense. Afterall they may need to go back and take more or even make use of it for any number of reasons.
So For me the reality is that yes you may have to bug out at some point, but things will die down (literally) after time and then I would look to move back (unless I had a decent alternative property in which I was safe, secure, warm etc etc).
Obviously moving back would be a careful operation undertaken over a drawn out period of time to ensure that the area is safe and that there is something to go back to!
Re: What would there be to come back to?
I was thinking more of like the great fire of London, certainly for built up areas like mine, unchecked even accidental ones would take a lot out, so not the marauders, mother nature, plonkers with candles and no fire brigade, and lastly those evacuating certain of no return making sure those who stay don't benefit from their property, there aren't many times of year in the UK where wild or unchecked fires could burn down more suburban areas with well spaced semis or detached houses, that said I've seen some modern estates where even the detached ones are too close for comfort (one person could easily touch two houses at once)It puzzles me why people think that 'every' house would be burned to the ground after people bug out?
I have a strategy, it's not written in stone, nor can it be, this scenario has too many variables, everything about it depends on those variables, being specific is not possible.
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Re: What would there be to come back to?
Devonian wrote:It puzzles me why people think that 'every' house would be burned to the ground after people bug out?
Looted and stripped, maybe, but why would marauders or whoever be so interested in burning down every property they visit, it makes no sense. Afterall they may need to go back and take more or even make use of it for any number of reasons.
So For me the reality is that yes you may have to bug out at some point, but things will die down (literally) after time and then I would look to move back (unless I had a decent alternative property in which I was safe, secure, warm etc etc).
Obviously moving back would be a careful operation undertaken over a drawn out period of time to ensure that the area is safe and that there is something to go back to!
You are probably correct, however I for one having bugged out would assume total destruction of property either deliberate or more likely accidental. Then you could return and find your previous home occupied by squatters, who will be unlikely to move out without strife.
I would imagine most empty peopery will be striipped of anything useful e.g. copper wire and Pipe, the window frames to make growing frames and greenhouses. internal stud walls salvaged for firewood.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.” ― Edward R. Murrow
"Remember Politicians are like babies diapers they both need changing often for the very same reason" - Mark Twain
If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.
"Remember Politicians are like babies diapers they both need changing often for the very same reason" - Mark Twain
If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.
Re: What would there be to come back to?
People have a propensity to destroy one another, even if your scenario of choice does not include mass casualties then the social turmoil afterwards will certainly knock the population back.
Re: What would there be to come back to?
As posted earlier....Devonian wrote:So For me the reality is that yes you may have to bug out at some point, but things will die down (literally) after time and then I would look to move back
Abandoning your provisions and the bulk of your gear should not be done lightly. And neither is it Bugging Out.
Buggin Out is removing yourself from an untenable frontline situation as quickly as quietly as possible. The classic example being that you are driving home from work and all hell breaks loose, mayhem on the roads and social unrest all around. A Prepper would grab their BOB/EDC/GHB and make their way home on foot over concealing terrain, possibly stopping every few hours for a snack and a nap if the trek was a long and hard one.
Giving up your home and your Preps is not Buggin Out.
Re: What would there be to come back to?
Bugging out last resort...............need to be desperate for me to leave any of my gear, took toooo many years to build up to where I am. I could and have lived for long periods lived with very little in some isolated areas, my other half I would not expect to go this route.
Re: What would there be to come back to?
Malthouse Buggin out for a prepper is not the same as the military term. You describe quite well the military term which originated in Korea I think.
Bug in= keep all your preps at home and plan to stay there.
Bug out=Leave your home and go to a BOL where all your preps are.
It really is that simple. If someone has to leave their bug in location because the situation is worst then thought. You could then use the military term . "They had to bug out"
I hope that makes sense. It did to me abit
For PreppersBuggin Out is removing yourself from an untenable frontline situation as quickly as quietly as possible.
Bug in= keep all your preps at home and plan to stay there.
Bug out=Leave your home and go to a BOL where all your preps are.
It really is that simple. If someone has to leave their bug in location because the situation is worst then thought. You could then use the military term . "They had to bug out"
I hope that makes sense. It did to me abit
Re: What would there be to come back to?
I understand that different people understand it to mean their own thing.
But the trouble I have is understanding why you would intend to leave your home, with all the Preps and gear there. To me this is an absolute last resort, hence the comparison to abandoning ship only to find your boat fairs better than your liferaft.
My point, I think (it is a Sunday after all) is that abandoning your primary location is not "Buggin Out" unless you have a clear plan as to what your going to do once you are gone. Including your plan to return, as per the OP.
Call it what you like, but Bugging Out has a meaning whether it is military or not does not really matter... according to plans and preparations deserting the majority of your Preps with no further plan is becoming a refugee and something most of us are trying to avoid at all costs.
Calling it more than it is makes it sound more tempting than it ought to be.
But the trouble I have is understanding why you would intend to leave your home, with all the Preps and gear there. To me this is an absolute last resort, hence the comparison to abandoning ship only to find your boat fairs better than your liferaft.
My point, I think (it is a Sunday after all) is that abandoning your primary location is not "Buggin Out" unless you have a clear plan as to what your going to do once you are gone. Including your plan to return, as per the OP.
Call it what you like, but Bugging Out has a meaning whether it is military or not does not really matter... according to plans and preparations deserting the majority of your Preps with no further plan is becoming a refugee and something most of us are trying to avoid at all costs.
Calling it more than it is makes it sound more tempting than it ought to be.