What Preps are you doing this week? Part 9

[Norma]

I do find it interesting that a lot of our conversations are about saving energy. This thread is about electric dishwasher issues. Just a thought.

I knew this would come up! As I mentioned, my dishwasher cleans better than I do. It’s a small one and I run it only when full, though if I over fill it it doesn’t clean so well. About once a year there’s a discussion in a national newspaper about hand washing vs the dishwasher and invariably someone will write in to say that they wash up all their dishes and pots using only half a pint of water. I exaggerate for effect. I didn’t have one for years and I definitely prefer the clean dishes I get with the dishwasher.

[jansman]

I do find it interesting that a lot of our conversations are about saving energy. This thread is about electric dishwasher issues. Just a thought.

I knew this would come up! As I mentioned, my dishwasher cleans better than I do. It’s a small one and I run it only when full, though if I over fill it it doesn’t clean so well. About once a year there’s a discussion in a national newspaper about hand washing vs the dishwasher and invariably someone will write in to say that they wash up all their dishes and pots using only half a pint of water. I exaggerate for effect. I didn’t have one for years and I definitely prefer the clean dishes I get with the dishwasher.

Choice is freedom, but when I hear moaning about fuel costs …

[Jerseyspud]

I have a dishwasher. Unfortunstly it is crap

It's 15 years old, refuses to clean saucepans or anything tomato sauce has touched...







... And stomps upstairs saying she's too busy to do it

[Yorkshire Andy]

I have a dishwasher. Unfortunstly it is crap

It's 15 years old, refuses to clean saucepans or anything tomato sauce has touched...







... And stomps upstairs saying she's too busy to do it

We have that problem with the automatic dishwasher loading / unloading unit it's 12 years old and if it doesn't get done after the first ask it looses it's mobile phone (the agreement was that she could have a mobile and a basic phone / data package of she did the dishwasher) even better is you don t need to physically remove the phone from her possession she sussed that out quick... But android parental control we can just remotely lock it so it becomes useless and when locked it'll only ring me or mum

[jansman]

I have a dishwasher. Unfortunstly it is crap

It's 15 years old, refuses to clean saucepans or anything tomato sauce has touched...







... And stomps upstairs saying she's too busy to do it

We have that problem with the automatic dishwasher loading / unloading unit it's 12 years old and if it doesn't get done after the first ask it looses it's mobile phone (the agreement was that she could have a mobile and a basic phone / data package of she did the dishwasher) even better is you don t need to physically remove the phone from her possession she sussed that out quick... But android parental control we can just remotely lock it so it becomes useless and when locked it'll only ring me or mum

Children are the most unreliable dishwashing technology available!

[diamond lil]

Aye and husbands aren't always that much better. My dishwasher is called Jimmy and prone to wandering off to watch telly or youtube

[Yorkshire Andy]

Children are the most unreliable dishwashing technology available!

Unfortunately it's apparently unacceptable to smack it on the top like a old TV set that won't show a picture


Today's tasks are minimal need to give the hedge a trim but I burried the petrol can when I tidied the shed

[Evergog]

Please don't skimp on hot water for dishes. You get food poisoning that way - I used to work in an infectious diseases hospital and that was one of the things that always came up.

Soap kills bacteria. Water only needs to be luke warm to loosen grease according to this guy*. He says it would need to be too hot to put your hands in to do much more.

I wash my plates with loads of soap straight after using them. I wet the plate, squirt soap onto my scrubber, then scrub the plate thoroughly, then rinse the soap off.

* Dr. Ben Chapman is department head of Agricultural and Human Sciences, professor and director of the Safe Plates food safety extension and research program at North Carolina State University.

The surfactants in the washing up liquid will essentially solubilise the oils and fats and then loosen the bonds that hold the food to the plate etc. then when you scrub and rinse they come off with the water. If the surface is free from these, then there is very little for bacteria to grow on. Hotter the water the easier- but realistically anything over 40 will do the job. Higher temperatures will actually denature bacteria viruses etc - but you have to get to 70+ to do it quickly. All that can be undone with a dirty dish towel mind you - best to let air dry. Sorry - industrial chemist but trade

[Frnc]

Please don't skimp on hot water for dishes. You get food poisoning that way - I used to work in an infectious diseases hospital and that was one of the things that always came up.

Soap kills bacteria. Water only needs to be luke warm to loosen grease according to this guy*. He says it would need to be too hot to put your hands in to do much more.

I wash my plates with loads of soap straight after using them. I wet the plate, squirt soap onto my scrubber, then scrub the plate thoroughly, then rinse the soap off.

* Dr. Ben Chapman is department head of Agricultural and Human Sciences, professor and director of the Safe Plates food safety extension and research program at North Carolina State University.

The surfactants in the washing up liquid will essentially solubilise the oils and fats and then loosen the bonds that hold the food to the plate etc. then when you scrub and rinse they come off with the water. If the surface is free from these, then there is very little for bacteria to grow on. Hotter the water the easier- but realistically anything over 40 will do the job. Higher temperatures will actually denature bacteria viruses etc - but you have to get to 70+ to do it quickly. All that can be undone with a dirty dish towel mind you - best to let air dry. Sorry - industrial chemist but trade

I've never liked the idea of tea towels, so I always air dry. I scrub everything wetted, with a scrubber with a load of soap on, and rinse it off. I check it is 100% clean. So the soap is much more concentrated than in a bowl full of water. I think one of my lodgers doesn't rinse after washing. I don't like that, but not much I can do about it. I don't like the idea of the dirty water drying on the dishes. Especially as they aren't veggie.

[Le Mouse]

I'm off to go collect my niece's birthday present from Argos shortly. I added a set of 2 camping lights and a couple of large multipacks of batteries to the order to make the journey a little more efficient Interestingly, one of the reviews on the camping lights said they were buying them in case of inevitable power cuts.