Run to the hills?

[itsybitsy]

I cannot stress-out about this subject anymore.There are some things in life you have to just hope for the best.After all,when was the last time there was a mass evacuation of the general population in the uk?

Well as it stands right now I have NO BOL anyway - so my only option would be to head off in the car somewhere, and hope for the best. Not ideal, I know - but right now my priorities are making sure that my home is as fully prepped as it can be to bug in. Then, buy a tent!!!

[jansman]

No need or point in stressing out, but it is good to discuss the various options. I've never had to evacuate from my home....but I my house has never burnt down either but I still have home and contents insurance

House fire is a fear.30 yrs ago I helped redecorate a block of fire damaged bedsits-people diedthere.I too am well insured I need to have security.

[janso]

No need or point in stressing out, but it is good to discuss the various options. I've never had to evacuate from my home....but I my house has never burnt down either but I still have home and contents insurance

I think thats the moral of this topic CC

[cavealaska]

if the shtf, I guess it would depend where you live in our over populated lands, if near a city would you want to bug in if all hell is being let loose, if you do bug in can you defend your property and most of all your life and those close to you? if not its time to bug out, have emergency food ready to go in Tote Boxes along with medical supplies water fuel, have an action plan and escape route, fuel maybe sparse, there are ways around this. If you have decided to bug in make sure that you have not broadcast to every Tom Dick and Harry that you have food supplies water fuel etc, unlike preppers in Canada and the States most of us will not have a firearm to protect it. Find out who and where other preppers are, there is security in numbers and also trading and bartering can be done, food for medical supplies and so on.

[TimeisRunningOut]

The great killers in the past were TB and pneumonia - both can be overcome with decent dry housing.
RD, do you know how to cut & stack peat ?

Exactly........ I'll be riding it out at my mates house stocked up on supplies and fuel.
With modern tech, the "eye in the sky" and satellites and heat-sig cams...... I doubt youll hide very long in the woods, altho that nuclear bunker the MOD is selling for £7500 might be a good idea..... only thing is........ the bloody state would know you bought it and live there. (I saw elec sockets so I assumed they have to sign up to one of the energy companies )

[FlyingHaggis]

I live in Bonnie Scotland but you have to have plan A, B , C , D and even E . It also depends on what the scenario of sit-x is

in the majority of cases Scotland is ideally suited for a Bug out location land and plenty of water but if the sit-x was a nuclear strike half of the west of Scotland would be unusable , we have Coulport and Faslane one is the store of the British nuclear deterrent and the other is the base the subs sail from so I would imagine that they would be high on the list to be a target

My thoughts are this if its a viable option I would bug i till the situation dictates to remove myself from the area , if its safe to do so west then north if its a nuclear strike then i will be looking to go to Wales or similar location

what I keep meaning to do is get in the car do a bit of travelling and recce various bug out locations looking at shelter , water , security and food and eventually compile a list of a number of locations

anyhoo great post its always good to hear others thoughts and viewpoints

FH

[bulldogeagle]

i did have a conversation(on another site) long ago, with a guy who lived in London who wasnt prepared to move from there because he was hooked on wine bars, and macdonalds and all the restaurants and stuff, but still reckoned he could survive when TSHTF, but as we have seen from the recent riots that will not be possible, if you are a prepper and you live in London or any other city, you really need to consider moving well BEFORE TSHTF because it wont be possible AFTER, the mobs and the gangs will see to that!i know a lot of people will say" i cant move because of": work, finance, family(delete as appropriate)for something that may or may not happen. but i would say , in these troubling times-anything is possible- at least please consider the possibility. i myself lived in a city for 43 years and i am very happy that i left, this was 12 years ago, i was talking to my friends wife the other day and she says it is not the place you left, it is full of druggies and we had our door kicked it at 5am the other day-and they live in the suburbs not the inner city!!

[Carrot Cruncher]

I wasn't going to, but.....i can't help myself

long ago, with a guy who lived in London who wasnt prepared to move from there because he was hooked on wine bars, and macdonalds and all the restaurants and stuff, but still reckoned he could survive when TSHTF, but as we have seen from the recent riots that will not be possible

Disagree. It wouldn't be the best place in the world to be but it certainly would be possible to survive in an urban environment.

if you are a prepper and you live in London or any other city, you really need to consider moving well BEFORE TSHTF because it wont be possible AFTER, the mobs and the gangs will see to that!

This one keeps coming up. If are happy living in a city, you work there, your family live there, and you like the environment, why would you move to a rural location (not everyone wants to live "the good life") just on the off-chance something might happen ? Take that line of thought to it's logical conclusion and we would all be living as hermits on a mountain somewhere miles from anyone with our beans and guns. Too many preppers live in fear of what might happen and forget about enjoying their life in the present

As I mentioned on another site yesterday, too many prepping sites just state that if you live in a city you need to move out, they somehow give the impression that you can't be a "serious" prepper if you live in a city....total BS in my opinion. Having a prepping mindset is far more important than where you live.

And before you ask.... no I don't live in a city

[bulldogeagle]

Disagree. It wouldn't be the best place in the world to be but it certainly would be possible to survive in an urban environment.


This one keeps coming up. If are happy living in a city, you work there, your family live there, and you like the environment, why would you move to a rural location (not everyone wants to live "the good life") just on the off-chance something might happen ? [/quote]
I can see your point CC, but it all depends on what people are prepping for? if we just say things like, unemployment/redundancy, maybe bad weather, possibly the odd power cut, then yes its quite possible to survive in the cities, but , I, on the other hand am prepping for the end of the" oil age", climate change, when human civilisation breaks down and things become "feral/tribal", as we saw during the recent riots, when persons and property will not be safe, when anyones survival is in the hands of some pimply "youff" holding a petrol bomb!

[Carrot Cruncher]

I know what you are saying paul, but even in a SHTF scenario it is not as simple as city = bad, rural = good. Look at the Ukraine when Stalin was persecuting them, it was the rural poor that died in their millions and in some cases were resorting to cannabalism. Look at places today in Africa, where for some TS is hitting TF big tme, it is the rural villages that are getting attacked in DRC by rebels and militias, men killed and women and children raped....people leave the villages and move to the cities for relative safety.

In rural areas bands of militias can go about their business untouched as the area is too large to secure with not enough people to defend themselves, towns and cities will have some security even if it is just the last bit of authority left or security organised by the people themselves.

In some instances rural would be better, in some instances urban would be better but without a crystal ball no one can say which is going to be better.

Me personally, I would happily live miles from anyone but MrsCC wouldn't want that so we have got a compromise that suits us both